The March of Time - A Stainless Steel 6.4 hotseat

[deguerra]

Hi guys.

Just to let you know I will be in Germany for most of Jan and unable to do my turns. I'm happy for anyone to sub/take over, and I'll see how things are when I get back.

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Byzzies!
http://www.gamefront.com/files/21142033/MoT-Byz-4.sav

[RexLegend]

Don't worry deguerra, just let armies of Denmark to take over your cities and you don't have to worry about this hotseat anymore. >:)

[ArcturUs]

Moors

I need someone to sub me since I will be busy with my exams until Feb. I won't be able to play till they get over.

[phonicsmonkey]

Ezil, can you nominate someone? Most of us are at war with you!

[ArcturUs]

well someone whos not at war maybe, Caesar or LooseCannon1

[Myth]

Soo... Who have we lost here? Did I get this correctly, that Rogueman gave up on the ERE?

[Nightbringer]

I will do my turn tonight.

[Nightbringer]

lithuania up,
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...id=205&id=9813
and about france, maybe we should just have people sub them rather than giving them a new player, they are being attacked from 3 different sides and as far as I know don't have help coming.

[phonicsmonkey]

about france, maybe we should just have people sub them rather than giving them a new player, they are being attacked from 3 different sides and as far as I know don't have help coming.

sounds like a candidate for the AI if you ask me, why bother subbing if they are getting kerbstomped? I'll switch them next time my turn comes up

[Nigel]

Ok, I completed my turn.
Here is the savegame for Kiev:

MoT-4-Kiev.rar

[Mithridate]

Teutons up

Moscov have been taken and is nove under stron, wise kievan rule!

[Nigel]

Teutons done.

To eliminate them I charged the only surviving unit (Grandmaster with 37 men bodyguard) against a Polish army.
Ceasar, this hopefully did not cause you too much damage, but it was the only army within reach.
And hopefully they are out of the game now for good.

Norway is next:

MoT-4-Norway.rar

[phonicsmonkey]

sorry, Norway is deguerra right? We don't have a player for them but I'll see if I can sub this evening while we look for one

[phonicsmonkey]

I'm sorry to say it but poor Norway is doomed - I have switched it to AI

Khwarezm is up

EDIT: Now the holidays are done let's get these turns really rolling again - I'm going to be strict on deadlines and skip anyone who misses them without notice

[Myth]

Er, you might want to remind those of us who could have simply missed the PM, or didn't get one

[Nigel]

Er, you might want to remind those of us who could have simply missed the PM, or didn't get one

I agree with Myth and - speaking for myself - I would be happy with a somewhat lenient policy of sending a reminder PM plus another day grace period. Even though gamespeed seems to be slow, a 2-day window is quite narrow and we are probably getting to a point where having your turn skipped can be really painful for some players. Also, the long time between turns makes it convenient for some behind-the-scenes roleplaying action.

So as long as we make sure the game does not come to a halt, I personally would not mind waiting some additional time for a fellow player.
My two cents, anyway.

[slysnake]

I agree with Myth and - speaking for myself - I would be happy with a somewhat lenient policy of sending a reminder PM plus another day grace period. Even though gamespeed seems to be slow, a 2-day window is quite narrow and we are probably getting to a point where having your turn skipped can be really painful for some players. Also, the long time between turns makes it convenient for some behind-the-scenes roleplaying action.

So as long as we make sure the game does not come to a halt, I personally would not mind waiting some additional time for a fellow player.
My two cents, anyway.

Can each of us not just have a designated person who can sub a player who misses their 48-hour deadline??

[phonicsmonkey]

Can each of us not just have a designated person who can sub a player who misses their 48-hour deadline??

I would love that - feel free to designate someone and I will contact them to sub when the deadline is up with no explanation

As for Myth and Nigel's comments, in practice I am rarely at home when the turn deadlines come due (timezones you see) and so I usually have time and I'll always try to remind someone if their turn is up and they haven't played. But if I get no response I'm going to skip turns rather than wait days.

These games are more fun for everyone if they keep moving - if they continually stall it's my experience that people drift away and lose interest and I want to avoid that happening.

You guys can all subscribe to this thread and keep up to date with it that way, pm or no pm!

[Myth]

Well designated subs work but sometimes it's better to have an actual ally in that game to sub, and do specific things you instructed. As a rule of thumb, if you want to be a successful HS general you have to anticipate your IRL barriers and designate the best possible sub for each game, rather than burden one player to do it all for you (and subsequently, force him to make decisions for your faction without knowing everything abut your position in that game if he doesn't also participate in it).

Honestly I'll allow any of the .org regulars to sub me in a game so long as we have explicitly and undoubtedly been declared allies (done via PM more often than in public). Failing that, a .org regular who isn't in the game, a staff member or the admin for the game can do it. The thing is though, I think everyone trusts Monkey and Zim to do a fair and unbiased job at subbing a turn (hell, having Monkey sub you as a HA race I would consider an advantage) but both are quite busy IRL and can't be bothered to constantly sub every Tom, Dick and WarlordConqueror1996.

However their titles as Mods makes them more trustworthy in the eyes of other players (IMO again). Perhaps senior members, content managers, mods and any other can actively offer their assistance in such cases? Cecil, Nigel and other TR regulars who are also senior members could (along with myself) offer subbing services for games we are not in? Even better if the player left us instructions on how he would like things to progress on his turn.

I also propose special cases for extensions to be reviewed by the admin of a game or failing that - by Zim or Monkey. There are just those turns that absolutely cannot be risked and one must play for oneself.

[SilverShield]

guys give me a slight extension here just did a turn and im leaving town now im having this up as soon as im back tomorrow

[phonicsmonkey]

guys give me a slight extension here just did a turn and im leaving town now im having this up as soon as im back tomorrow

thats fine, thanks for letting us know

[SilverShield]

im not making it back home today we still got stuff going on here. actually its better im dropping from this one. i got lots of stuff going on right now too lil time for the game these days and its just turn four in this one more easy leaving this one than another one. im sure one of those smaller factions is going down within the next turns so naturally someone is up for an heavy weight. its still the right moment for someone else taking over and implementing his own grand strategy. enjoy guys

[Myth]

Strange I'd have thought the K-Shah has the highest chances of victory on this map. It's a well developed corner faction with no Mongols to pester it. You only need a dozen more towns to win it.

[phonicsmonkey]

By my count we have lost four players in the last month.

Norway and France have been switched to AI.

Kwarezm and ERE are open for new players - please help me to find replacement players among anyone you know. I will update the recruitment threads here, in the Citadel and at the TWC.

In the meantime I will sub the Kwarezm. We don't have a sub for the ERE.

[Myth]

With Sicilly, Egypt, the Moors, Venice, the Cumans and the K-Shah all attacking the ERE I thnk it has lower chances of survival than France. On my front (Italy and Greece) I have mauled three full stacks and now am just taking cities and castles as if I were plucking daises. Perhaps switching them to AI would be better? They had a crappy position to start with (I was surprised someone even bothered with them) and now they're pretty much boned.

Even if anew player comes and asks for peace, undoubtedly they would still lose a 1v1 with either Sicilly, Venice or Egypt. And this seems more like a landgrab now than a proper war, so who would give them peace anyway? No IC or OOC reason to do it

[RexLegend]

France actually has lower chances than ERE. You just don't know the amount of armies that are dispatched to rampage poor French. Without great player, there is no chance ;)

[slysnake]

bump!

[phonicsmonkey]

I'll try to do this tomorrow, sorry

[phonicsmonkey]

Swaaabia