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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    The English language is not completely with you on this one.
    Gender: 2

    b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

    Sex: 1

    : either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures





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    That is a very shallow analysis. First, who is most likely to be a rapist if you randomley chose a case? Looking at strength alone, this would be a male person. Who is most likely to be a victim? Again, looking only at strength, this would be a female.

    Now of course, men can be stronger than other men by a lot (and women stronger than men). But since most men happen not to be interested in sexual activity with other men, a man-on-man rape should not be expected to be very common; looking at no other parameters. And indeed, this is the case for the real world.

    So if a woman is raped merely for being a woman, then this would have to imply for this to be relevant; that she was assaulted for a hatred of her gender. That is to say that a rich man would be robbed not because he is a good target because of his wealth (gain for the robbers), but because he belonged to a group of people that is labeled as 'rich'.
    If you rape someone, then you don't have any respect for them. Given that most rapists are serial-rapists, this means that rapists do not have respect for members of the group that they target i.e. women as a whole. This is blatant, inarguable misogyny.

    A hatred of a gender should be distributed relatively evenly within a society through culture. Thus, if a woman is treated pretty badly by a man, this is much more likely to be an isolated incidence if women generally are treated well in this society, rather than stemming from a particular point/side of this culture.
    At what point does hatred for a gender become "widespread" throughout a society? Is having 1 in 4 women enduring sexual assault at some point in their lives not widespread enough for you to recognise that women are not treated as equals to men by society?

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    I have to admit, I do envy the freedoms many females do have over men though. Male-society is usually so rigid and many people are simply clones, with fashion for example, there are so many styles and exotic kid of outfits which suit them so perfectly which simply isn't replicated and seen as abhorrent on a male.

    Case in point:
    Female in a tux looks good.
    Male in a night gown? Cover your eyes! (especially if they got a hairy back)
    Damn, those super-priviliged women get all the breaks! QQ

    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Women get so much more choice when it comes to shoes.

    Sometimes I wish I were a woman just because of the shoes they get to choose from...
    Heh, men actually have it better in this regard. Expensive men's shoes last a lot longer than women's shoes, and we don't need to buy as many to have a "full set" of shoes for every occasion. The best quote I ever heard about shoes went along the lines of "I never understood why women were into shoes, until I suddenly had an epiphany. Getting a nice, varied selection of shoes is like Pokémon - you've gotta catch them all!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    If you rape someone, then you don't have any respect for them. Given that most rapists are serial-rapists, this means that rapists do not have respect for members of the group that they target i.e. women as a whole. This is blatant, inarguable misogyny.
    It's also about men needing to assert power over women because they feel insecure because their masculinity is threatened.

    At what point does hatred for a gender become "widespread" throughout a society? Is having 1 in 4 women enduring sexual assault at some point in their lives not widespread enough for you to recognise that women are not treated as equals to men by society?
    I thought most rapists were serial rapists, so it's not like 25% of men assault women, is it? Also, define "sexual assault", I've had men rip my clothes off (and women too, actually) in a club and at a party. Have I been sexually assaulted? Yes, obviously.

    I wasn't happy about it, but I don't want to be included in a statistic for that.

    Damn, those super-priviliged women get all the breaks! QQ
    What he means is, if a rich white man rapes a poor balck woman he might get away with it. If a rich white woman is raped by a black man, he's toast. If a rich white man rapes a rich white woman... even money I reckon. Race and wealth are a bigger deal than sex these days, or gender.

    [/quote]Heh, men actually have it better in this regard. Expensive men's shoes last a lot longer than women's shoes, and we don't need to buy as many to have a "full set" of shoes for every occasion. The best quote I ever heard about shoes went along the lines of "I never understood why women were into shoes, until I suddenly had an epiphany. Getting a nice, varied selection of shoes is like Pokémon - you've gotta catch them all!"[/QUOTE]

    This is certainly true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Gender: 2

    b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

    Sex: 1

    : either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures





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    I see your ? and raise you ?: ??

    Definition of GENDER

    2 a : sex <the feminine gender>

    If you rape someone, then you don't have any respect for them. Given that most rapists are serial-rapists, this means that rapists do not have respect for members of the group that they target i.e. women as a whole. This is blatant, inarguable misogyny.
    Rapists do not respect the will of their victim; very few of them have any ideological reasoning for their actions, it's primarily their biology that drives them.

    Is a "serial robber" a misanthrope?


    At what point does hatred for a gender become "widespread" throughout a society? Is having 1 in 4 women enduring sexual assault at some point in their lives not widespread enough for you to recognise that women are not treated as equals to men by society?

    4 in 4 people reported that they had been treated disrespectfully by another human being at some point in their life. I explained logically that the female gender is the most likely victim in rape cases; but as a matter of fact, this would hold true for almost any case. It takes confidence in your own strength if you are to become a perpetrator, and it takes confidence in the victim's lack thereof when the victim is selected. Without having access to the definition of 'sexual assault' that was used in whatever study, it is impossible to debate the numbers any further.
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