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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaexz View Post
    I never understood the trend where keeping the door open when you walk through it is offensive to self-proclaimed "feminists".
    Don't base your opinion of an entire philosophy on the actions of stupid people.
    I'm not a fan of feminism. Because it's a form of sexism.
    Not true. It is only sexist if you say that women are inherently superior to men. True feminism is about gender equality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    Don't base your opinion of an entire philosophy on the actions of stupid people.
    yes... if everyone just didnt do that. but sadly about everyone does.

    We do not sow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    Not true. It is only sexist if you say that women are inherently superior to men. True feminism is about gender equality.
    I went to an all boys school. When I went to uni, I didn't hold back on offensive jokes. Whenever I mentioned any sexist jokes, all the "feminists" would become angry when the joke was demeaning women. When I told a joke that demeaned men (I have more of those jokes, by the way), they would laugh.

    Alot of feminists are looking for gender superiority. I believe Rita Mae Brown is a feminist, but she still makes sexist jokes. There's a difference between joking about something and actually believing in it. You can do both at the same time, but not many do that. They think it's an infringement on their beliefs.

    That's why I love George Carlin. RIP George. But I hate the audience at his shows. Always cheering at everything he says, and I can't hear him at times.


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    Feminism implies activism, and is thus full of stupidities. You can't be honest about what's known and what isn't, or about what the uncertainties are, or all the other things you have to do to truly think about something philosophically, when you have a pressing political stake. You can't be scientific about the results of a study when you are a public figure in a political debate like that...if a study was inconclusive regarding whether men were smarter than women, any well known feminist who accurately described the study would have their words trumpeted all over by their opponents, who would have no such scruples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    Face > figure (slim or large) > bum/legs > breasts

    which is what attracts us

    personality > all = what keeps us.


    Im all for the best people in the best position.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Yes, and in that order for obvious reasons (or maybe not). The face is your main communicator, and an attractive face indicates good genes, so there you have good genese and the potential for a successful relationships; weight (or body fat%) can be both an indication of health and also (it appears increasingly) intelligence or at least common sense; bum/legs, pretty obvious this one, you don't want her to die in child birth; breasts, again pretty obvious, but also suggestive of high levels of fertility, and not just the ability to nurse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Ajax is correct. Sex refers to what organs you're born with, whereas gender is with which organs you identify. The distinction is both relevant in terms of referring to trans people (Who are people whose biological sex and gender don't match up at birth) and also the idea that gender is a social construct.


    Any.






    You mean, you know you're wrong?



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    Ajax didn't agree with you, he simply said that there is a preference in technical language to use "gender" to mean "social construct", but if you aren't impressed by the idea of complex "social constructs" as "made" parts of culture that's not persuasive.

    Oh, and "mankind" is just a word, which is clear if you look up the origin of "man", and the extinct "wer-man".

    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    1st wave is legit, but not very special.

    id say 2nd wave is feminism freaking out

    and i totally applaud 3rd wave! tho i think it kinda makes being a feminist... redundant.
    I don't buy into third-wave's theories, it should actually logically talk itself out of existence because "Feminism" is a linguistically prescriptive word with huge amounts of historical baggage which limits the discourse that "feminism" engages in, and the groups it includes and excludes. For example, the word "Feminist" actually excludes the heterosexual male from proper membership of the movement because he is not, "feminine" and it is not "his course".

    If you consider, you would not describe a white male as a "Black Rights" campaigner, but as a "Civil Rights" campaigner, although you might use the former term to describe a black male. This is why I object to the equivilence drawn between Egalitarianism and Feminism, the latter is prescriptive in its aim while the former is not.

    I also happen to think that Post-Scructuralism is both reductive and unconvincing, but that's a different argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaexz View Post
    I never understood the trend where keeping the door open when you walk through it is offensive to self-proclaimed "feminists".
    That's because you're not doing it properly. Feminists are now told that it is "sexist" for men to open doors, but the door-opening in question is where the man goes forward of the woman, opens the door for her to go throough and then follows her. So what these feminists are reacting against is something that you don't do, not what you do do.

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