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    The title mistake was pure karma . Last I saw, the male chicken was running a refugee camp in Haiti. Now that he's fixed that place, and is probably getting bored, it's on to the next crusade.
    If the people of the Falklands wish to remain part of the UK, then Argentina and the male chicken should stuff it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito View Post
    The title mistake was pure karma . Last I saw, the male chicken was running a refugee camp in Haiti. Now that he's fixed that place, and is probably getting bored, it's on to the next crusade.
    If the people of the Falklands wish to remain part of the UK, then Argentina and the male chicken should stuff it.
    Part of the problem, one suspects, is that Obama begs to differ. All that would be needed to end this is for the US to throw its weight behind the right of the Falklanders to self-determination, but it won't.
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    The last I heard we weren't a state yet, so Abomber can think what he likes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Part of the problem, one suspects, is that Obama begs to differ. All that would be needed to end this is for the US to throw its weight behind the right of the Falklanders to self-determination, but it won't.
    The US never intervenes were it's own national interest contradicts British historical attachments.

    Last time out the US was at best cool about the idea of UK invading, now it's even more in the US interest to court Argentina.
    The strategic thing and most likey thing ANY current or potential US president will do is absolutely nothing.



    US is thinking long term on this one with regard to the millitary, economic and naval situation in the South Atlantic.
    The UK on the other hand may need may need to come to a monetary accomadation or politically risk a lot for little return.(there doesnt need to be a war for this to hurt Britain in the future)
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    Falklands are not part of the United Kingdom, they come under "Dependent Territory" where they chose to depend on Britain opposed to alternatives. Falklanders requested not to be part of Argentina and the British Government for reasons refuse to allow them to be part of Britain. So they are sort of a random stretch of land who are protected by Britain.
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    Dead Man Walking... Mystic River... Milk... the guy is a very talented actor and I give him credit for sticking around in Haiti long after the media, Hollywood, and the world lost interest. When you travel around the third world, it is very easy to fall into an anti-Western/colonialist mindset and the kind of black and white world view that dictates that what isn't Western must therefore be good. For example, Chavez seems like a complete crock () until one reads up on things such as Operation Condor, and then his excesses seem a bit more justified. He should stick to perfecting his craft and raising awareness for charitable causes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    Dead Man Walking... Mystic River... Milk... the guy is a very talented actor and I give him credit for sticking around in Haiti long after the media, Hollywood, and the world lost interest. When you travel around the third world, it is very easy to fall into an anti-Western/colonialist mindset and the kind of black and white world view that dictates that what isn't Western must therefore be good. For example, Chavez seems like a complete crock () until one reads up on things such as Operation Condor, and then his excesses seem a bit more justified. He should stick to perfecting his craft and raising awareness for charitable causes.
    God **** this is the most reasonable post in here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaexz View Post
    Falklands are not part of the United Kingdom, they come under "Dependent Territory" where they chose to depend on Britain opposed to alternatives. Falklanders requested not to be part of Argentina and the British Government for reasons refuse to allow them to be part of Britain. So they are sort of a random stretch of land who are protected by Britain.
    I thought the British Nationality Act 1983 provided them with British citizenship?
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    I thought it was the British Dependency Citizenship they got, unless their family was from Britain itself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaexz View Post
    I thought it was the British Dependency Citizenship they got, unless their family was from Britain itself?
    That 1983 act provides citizenship for anyone stripped of it in 1981, note the dates. The 1983 Act was a direct result of the War, where the 1981 Act was a concession to Argentinia.
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    Which was Superseded by the British Overseas Territories Act 2002.
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