Focus on... Yakuza! (Mafia game) - Concluded

[Montmorency]

That's why you don't mess with Network Monty, suckas!

[Visor]

And this is why you let me act as a complete scumbag. So I am not yakked.

[atheotes]

feel sorry for Zack

Vote: Zaccino

[Montmorency]

Don't. He was in the service - he knew his duty.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Should have let me live and yakked me, silly yaks.

[Visor]

Should have let me live and yakked me, silly yaks.

Really now. You set yourself up to fail Pizzaguy. You should've just kept chugging along quietly without the whole anti-town movement. Maybe then.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Really now. You set yourself up to fail Pizzaguy. You should've just kept chugging along quietly without the whole anti-town movement. Maybe then.

I win if town wins, silly banana. I'm playing this game to win. I managed to convince the mafia not to yak me and died while townie. Then I let you people do all the work for me.

Strategy!

[Visor]

I win if town wins, silly banana. I'm playing this game to win. I managed to convince the mafia not to yak me and died while townie. Then I let you people do all the work for me.

Strategy!

For shame.

Speaking to those who had died, did you actually have any faith in the town winning?

[LazyMcCrow]

For shame.

Speaking to those who had died, did you actually have any faith in the town winning?

Unshakeable. I just didn't expect you to be part of it ;P

[LazyMcCrow]

dopplepost

[Visor]

Unshakeable. I just didn't expect you to be part of it ;P

Why unshakeable? And no-one ever does. Sorry for messing with you, though, I thought you would've heard of the five stages of grief.

[SalmonSoil]

I just couldn't imagine how you guys could win without my intellect.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I never had any doubt in my mind that town winning the game was one of the possible outcomes.

[Visor]

I never had any doubt in my mind that town winning the game was one of the possible outcomes.

*facepalm*

I am asking how much faith/belief you had that the town would win, not whether you thought there was a chance.

[atheotes]

Did i miss the announcement that we won the game?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Did i miss the announcement that we won the game?

Well, since Zack is set to be lynched, and atheotes is always mafia, then yeah, you won the game. :P

[Visor]

I am making assumptions, because we might as well assume. Backup cop isn't dead, so one of us is the backup cop. The cop ain't dead, so one of us is the cop.

I'm not mafia. Zack changed from innocent to suspicious. You're not mafia. Cop (Monty) ain't mafia.

SO even though I might be wrong, I don't think I am.

[Askthepizzaguy]

*facepalm*

I am asking how much faith/belief you had that the town would win, not whether you thought there was a chance.

I have 100% faith that if town lynches all the mafia, town will win. I believe it to be so with every fiber of my cheesy being.

[Visor]

I have 100% faith that if town lynches all the mafia, town will win. I believe it to be so with every fiber of my cheesy being.

*sigh*. SO why did you publicly say that you're all neutral, etc?

[Askthepizzaguy]

*sigh*. SO why did you publicly say that you're all neutral, etc?

I wanted to provoke the other players and see what they would do, so that I may better predict their behavior in future games.

[Visor]

But all game situations are different. What you learn now may not have any kind of use.

[Riedquat]

I wanted to provoke the other players and see what they would do, so that I may better predict their behavior in future games.

Good luck predicting my behaviour... :P

[Askthepizzaguy]

But all game situations are different. What you learn now may not have any kind of use.

I've observed that people believe their behavior is unpredictable, and consciously attempt to make it so. That said, their subconscious does not make such an attempt, and because the human mind is a pattern-recognizing and pattern-copying machine, people will subconsciously repeat certain behaviors naturally.

The best "tells" in any behavior-predicting game are the ones that people are not aware that they are exhibiting. You may be attempting to be unreadable and dynamic, but you are still who you are and some things don't change until you become aware of those patterns and work to change them.

This applies to townies as well; often times mafia successfully manipulate hapless townies because they successfully read a person and attempt to behave in a manner which will trigger less of a hostile reaction. You'll note that townie and mafia play is 95% reactive or more; the mafia change their behavior in reaction to the townies they hope to defeat, and townies react to other's posts, reasoning, and votes in an attempt to defeat the mafia.

Because the play is reactionary, knowing which reactions to provoke would turn an ordinary mafia player into a god. I've pulled off some tricks in my time but there's always room for improvement on that front.

[Montmorency]

I've observed that people believe their behavior is unpredictable, and consciously attempt to make it so. That said, their subconscious does not make such an attempt, and because the human mind is a pattern-recognizing and pattern-copying machine, people will subconsciously repeat certain behaviors naturally.

The best "tells" in any behavior-predicting game are the ones that people are not aware that they are exhibiting. You may be attempting to be unreadable and dynamic, but you are still who you are and some things don't change until you become aware of those patterns and work to change them.

This applies to townies as well; often times mafia successfully manipulate hapless townies because they successfully read a person and attempt to behave in a manner which will trigger less of a hostile reaction. You'll note that townie and mafia play is 95% reactive or more; the mafia change their behavior in reaction to the townies they hope to defeat, and townies react to other's posts, reasoning, and votes in an attempt to defeat the mafia.

Because the play is reactionary, knowing which reactions to provoke would turn an ordinary mafia player into a god. I've pulled off some tricks in my time but there's always room for improvement on that front.

++++++++++++++++++++++

[Jarema]

Following lead of police oficer, Montmorency, remaining townies surrounded Zaccino.
'You have to die, your bloody murdserer!'
'Wait... wait...', Zaccino answered. 'I never killed anyone!'
'we know well that you have changed sides! Zack, that was good and loyal man. Zaccino, that one has to hang'
And they hanged him.

Zack was mafia member!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Town Victory!

Living players:

Atheotes
Montmorency
Visorslash

dead qt (nothing really there):
http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/J2fWmzqnxTg

mafia/yakuza qt:
http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/6ZCRpK29WVPB

[Jarema]

Please, tell me now:

1. what you think about this game

2. what you think about my hosting

3. and, because one of my reasons of this game was to look closer at yakuza role, what you think about this role? did this game show us something about it? I have my opinion on this subject, and I will post it later...

thanks for playing!

[Montmorency]

I don't really have any substantial comments.

Longer writeups are always nice though.

Thanks for hosting, GG well-played and all the rest!

[Jarema]

Longer writeups are always nice though.

Yeah, I know. it is my weakest point. My english skills are weak (but I feel I am improving steadily)
TBH, those are the longest writeups I ever made (it is second game in which I tried to write anything 'in character'; in most of my games I didn even try)

[Zack]

I'm bitter I was brought on to the losing side at the last second to share in the defeat.

Also, I obviously wouldn't have posted that Monty was still the cop if I had known I was mafia at the time...

[Jarema]

Yes. sorry about that, my mistake. I should first write to you, and then post night end in a game thread