Sex-Crazed Co-eds Going Broke Buying Birth Control

[PanzerJaeger]

But that would ruin my ability to shoot from the hip and engage in sanctimonius rants

Why would you rob me of that?

Here's a bit of anecdote to put the issue in perspective. My cousin is 33. She has a great job, as does her husband. They do not want kids and she is considering a full range of more permanent and costly contraceptive procedures to make sure they do not have them. Under this mandate, any one of those procedures will be completely covered under her insurance. There is absolutely no reason why she should not contribute to whichever procedure she decides on so that my premiums don't go up and/or my tax dollars don't end up subsidizing it through the back end. There is a big difference between my cousin and a 16 year old inner city girl living with her baby daddy in his Caprice Classic. This mandate makes no distinction.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Here's a bit of anecdote to put the issue in perspective. My cousin is 33. She has a great job, as does her husband. They do not want kids and she is considering a full range of more permanent and costly contraceptive procedures to make sure they do not have them. Under this mandate, any one of those procedures will be completely covered under her insurance. There is absolutely no reason why she should not contribute to whichever procedure she decides on so that my premiums don't go up and/or my tax dollars don't end up subsidizing it through the back end. There is a big difference between my cousin and a 16 year old inner city girl living with her baby daddy in his Caprice Classic. This mandate makes no distinction.

Why sign up for insurance in the first place? All your money is going to other people for their bad choices. Most people's health issues are due to their own lifestyle. If you don't feel like paying for other's choices, don't participate in a communistic system to begin with. Pay for yourself.

[Tuuvi]

Why sign up for insurance in the first place? All your money is going to other people for their bad choices. Most people's health issues are due to their own lifestyle. If you don't feel like paying for other's choices, don't participate in a communistic system to begin with. Pay for yourself.

We all have to sign up for insurance in 2014. (I have a feeling your post wasn't completely serious.)

[a completely inoffensive name]

We all have to sign up for insurance in 2014. (I have a feeling your post wasn't completely serious.)

You can thank the GOP of the 90s and early 00's for that mandate.

But I was being semi serious. Insurance are run like communistic dictatorships, everyone pays in and you get as much as you need, if the dictator decides he has enough money at the moment. It's inherently inefficient, and if people made sure they didn't get obese, health care costs would plummet because there wouldn't be nearly as much demand on our system as there currently is. At this point most of your money just subsidizes people's bad health choices.

[Papewaio]

Is the pursuit of happiness an unalienable right?

" it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness"

So aren't condoms and the pill included in Effective Saftey and Happiness?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Is the pursuit of happiness an unalienable right?

" it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness"

So aren't condoms and the pill included in Effective Saftey and Happiness?

A right to purchase something is not the same as the entitlement of being given that item by the government.

CR

[Strike For The South]

Here's a bit of anecdote to put the issue in perspective. My cousin is 33. She has a great job, as does her husband. They do not want kids and she is considering a full range of more permanent and costly contraceptive procedures to make sure they do not have them. Under this mandate, any one of those procedures will be completely covered under her insurance. There is absolutely no reason why she should not contribute to whichever procedure she decides on so that my premiums don't go up and/or my tax dollars don't end up subsidizing it through the back end. There is a big difference between my cousin and a 16 year old inner city girl living with her baby daddy in his Caprice Classic. This mandate makes no distinction.

Babby daddy has urban connitations
Urban has black connitations
Bringing up skin color is racism

Vuk will be along shortly

But I agree with you to a point, for the most part selective procedures should not be covered but I will also point out this debate has sprialed beyond that

The pill allows women a certain autonomy and even footing with men that was not possible before. This is a subtle distiniction that I feel is being ignored and different than a tubal ligation or vasectomy (forgive me if I am forward)