With Great Sacrifice [Concluded]

[edse]

Do you care to expound on this any? How do you know it can’t be one of them? One way to interpret this statement is that it is an attempt to deflect attention away from finding the last killer. Is this what you are advocating here?

Al right guys, think about it. We are not here to lynch Gods, we are here to find the purest sacrifice. That's not Montmorency.

The only threat to the town atm is the last killer and the fact that he didn't nightkill Monty last night makes me draw the conclusion that there is a mechanism that requires Monty to get lynched for the killer to win. BSmith or LazyMcCrow is the last killer and with him gone we have all the time in the world to find the sacrifice.

The Purest Sacrifice is probably a town power role or a third party role. I would say Lewwyn or White_eyes.

I even wanted to lynch a killer yesterday and not a harmless God. I still think Lazy is the one most likely to be the killer and you're number two on the list.

edit: and I have changed my opinion on this: "the fact that he didn't nightkill Monty last night makes me draw the conclusion that there is a mechanism that requires Monty to get lynched for the killer to win". He understood that you were going to lynch Monty no matter what so killing him would have been a waste of kill.

[BSmith]

What makes you think that either Lewwyn or White_Eyes is the purest sacrifice? And why are Lazy and I at the top of your list?

[Yaropolk]

I resent that. I'm only mostly dead. And I gave the town 2 scum. Anyway, Vote: Monty. I am genuinely curious of lynching him will fulfill the "pure of soul" requirement.

Apparently Monty was full of delicious nougat and not pure soul!

Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh
Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh
Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh
Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh

Hush my darling, don't fear my darling
The lion sleeps tonight
Hush my darling, don't fear my darling
The lion sleeps tonight

Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh
Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh
Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh
Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh

Seriously - it's night time, stop voting!

[Montmorency]

You plainly broke the compact, so my honor demands recompense.

I'll see you in Hell, Coward-God.

Face me!

[edse]

What makes you think that either Lewwyn or White_Eyes is the purest sacrifice?

The purest sacrifice's only goal must be to survive. Lewwyn and White_Eyes are the ones trying hardest to do that.

And why are Lazy and I at the top of your list?

Your eagerness to follow the dead Gods' will.

[BSmith]

I’ve looked back through the thread and here are my observations and rank of who I think is the most suspicious:

1.) Daveshack
Among the other things that others have said already, DaveShack just seems off to me. Most of his analysis twists things ever so slightly to make them seem worse than they really are. He has made several posts about not being very experienced, yet he has been playing mafia at least as long as I have (more than a year now) and I don’t consider myself inexperienced.

2.) Edse
Edse has always had an underlying suspicion by others throughout the entire game. When I looked at him earlier his actions just seemed erratic to me, and not in any way planned or calculated. His recent insistence on not lynching the known scum, but instead trying to find the last killer (a much riskier proposition seeing how we don’t know who he is) is questionable as well. The past few rounds he has had less than focused accusations against several people, yet he hasn’t had a lot to back up those accusations.

This behavior, to me anyway, points to either a townie who is just saying what he thinks as he thinks it, or it is a constant attempt to try to direct the attention in thread away from himself. I’m honestly not sure at this point.

3.) Lazy McCrow
Lazy has done a fairly good job of working towards the town cause. He has quite a few fluff posts but also a lot of good analysis that (on the face of it anyway) has helped us work through things. He is either really good at sounding townie when he is scum, or he is indeed a townie.

3.) Lewwyn
Seems less of a threat to me after reading through the thread again. He had the early scare of almost being lynched, and acted as I would expect a townie would. He has also had some decent posts lately that have been good analysis, or responses to other’s analysis. Overall I am not feeling very suspicious of him either, but like Lazy he may just be really good at acting townie.

I would rank Lazy and Lewwyn the same in my priority list.


?) White eyes
Not enough data to really make a determination. This is the wild card of the game.

I think the most attention needs to be given to DaveShack and White_Eyes tomorrow.

[LazyMcCrow]

I agree with that - I think White Eyes :D is probably the pure one and Daveshack is the killer, but as has already pointed out, it's night time and the killer is going to just kill us if he catches us analysing and voting after lights out.

[BSmith]

He is going to kill one of us anyway, so I figured I'd get my thoughts out there in case it is me he chooses.

[Yaropolk]

I’ve looked back through the thread and here are my observations and rank of who I think is the most suspicious:

1.) Daveshack
Among the other things that others have said already, DaveShack just seems off to me. Most of his analysis twists things ever so slightly to make them seem worse than they really are. He has made several posts about not being very experienced, yet he has been playing mafia at least as long as I have (more than a year now) and I don’t consider myself inexperienced.

2.) Edse
Edse has always had an underlying suspicion by others throughout the entire game. When I looked at him earlier his actions just seemed erratic to me, and not in any way planned or calculated. His recent insistence on not lynching the known scum, but instead trying to find the last killer (a much riskier proposition seeing how we don’t know who he is) is questionable as well. The past few rounds he has had less than focused accusations against several people, yet he hasn’t had a lot to back up those accusations.

This behavior, to me anyway, points to either a townie who is just saying what he thinks as he thinks it, or it is a constant attempt to try to direct the attention in thread away from himself. I’m honestly not sure at this point.

3.) Lazy McCrow
Lazy has done a fairly good job of working towards the town cause. He has quite a few fluff posts but also a lot of good analysis that (on the face of it anyway) has helped us work through things. He is either really good at sounding townie when he is scum, or he is indeed a townie.

3.) Lewwyn
Seems less of a threat to me after reading through the thread again. He had the early scare of almost being lynched, and acted as I would expect a townie would. He has also had some decent posts lately that have been good analysis, or responses to other’s analysis. Overall I am not feeling very suspicious of him either, but like Lazy he may just be really good at acting townie.

I would rank Lazy and Lewwyn the same in my priority list.


?) White eyes
Not enough data to really make a determination. This is the wild card of the game.

5) Yaropolk
Definitely one of the good guys - gave us 2 scum. We should listen to him

I think the most attention needs to be given to DaveShack and White_Eyes tomorrow.

Fixed that for you

[LazyMcCrow]

5) Yaropolk
Definitely one of the good guys - gave us 2 scum. We should listen to him

Oh yeah - who should we lynch tomorrow, oh dead scum god?

[Montmorency]

I technically gave you three scum, so listen to me: don't listen to Yaro.

[seireikhaan]

Alright, night is over. Writeup in progress.

[LazyMcCrow]

I technically gave you three scum, so listen to me: don't listen to Yaro.

Oh ok. So who should we lynch tomorrow Oh dead scum God? (...of War)
Man the Emperor is going to be annoyed when he finds out we've been up all night yakking!

[Montmorency]

we've been up all night yakking!

[Yaropolk]

Oh yeah - who should we lynch tomorrow, oh dead scum god?

Don't know yet - have to think about it.

[seireikhaan]

Based on the previous nights, Daveshack decided it was safest to avoid spending the night alone. Upon leaving the sacrificial chamber, he found the only other person leaving to his section of the quarters and offered his proposal. The man accepted, commending Daveshack on his sound logic. The two arrived to his quarters, neither speaking. Daveshack sat down against the wall. “Would you be up for a wager?” he asked his guest. The guest titled his head, then nodded, a curious look on his face. Daveshack lifted up his mat and pulled several wooden chips out. “Alright, see how each chip has a different god’s emblem on it? I set each one face down. Then, I rearrange them while you have you have your back turned. Then you turn around, and try to identify which god is assigned to which chip.”

“What do I get if I win?” the guest inquired.

“Oh, there’s not going to be anything actually wagered. Just a friendly competition.”

“I see.” With that, he turned around so Daveshack could begin to randomize the chips. After a short time, Daveshack told him he was ready. The host pointed to the first chip on the floor. “Mictlantecutl,” the guest answered. Daveshack lifted it up. It was indeed Mictlantecutl’s sigil on the chip.

“Very good! Lucky guess, I assume?”

“No, I was quite certain it was his.” Daveshack frowned.

“Did you cheat?”

“No,” the guest answered. He grinned slightly. Without warning, he leaped forward, pinning Daveshack to the ground. “He told me.” The guest retrieved the club hanging from the back of his belt and smashed in Daveshack’s face with a single blow.




My arrival to the sacrificial chamber did yield anything promising. The Emperor sat on a stone bench, looking dejected. I cautiously approached him. He just shook his head as I neared, and gave a wave of his hand to the crowd while giving me a somber look. I took it to mean we were still in our hunt. "My lord, I-" I was cut off by his glare. He simply motioned once more to the crowd. I understood what he meant. He wanted me to lead the examination. My heart sank. Were we all finished? Were we doomed to failure? No! We had to try, even if our Emperor would not. I approached the altar, and with a loud clap of my hands, began our search once more.



IT IS NOW DAY SIX. YOU HAVE 36 HOURS.

Alive:

Bsmith
Edse
Lazy McCrow
Lewwyn
White eyes


Lynched:

Atheotes (D1)
SalmonSoil (D2)
Chaotix (D3)
GeneralHankerchief (D4)
Montmorency (D5)

Attacked:

Seon (N2)
Yaropolk (N2)
Csargo (N2)
Jarema (N3)
Ishmael (N3)
Visorslash (N4)
Daveshack (N5)

Wrath of Khaan:

Zaccino
Landlubber
Fluffy

[Yaropolk]

[Montmorency]

Vote: BSmith

How about you lose now?

[BSmith]

Well that was certainly a curious choice for a kill, given the suspicion several of us had on DaveShack. I think for now I’ll go with number 2 on my list, and vote: edse.

Vote: BSmith

How about you lose now?

If I am lynched we will be no closer to finding the pure sacrifice or the killer. I am sorry to disappoint.

[Montmorency]

I'm afraid there is no "pure" one - the God of Death wants all of you dead.

[Lewwyn]

The Dave kill is super odd. I mean the killer had plenty of time to choose based on what people had been talking about at night. The biggest post of the night was against Dave. I'm going to chalk this up to the killer either making a mistake or not being around to change the kill target if they had already selected Dave. I think Lazy McCrow is probably innocent even if he had made up a huge case against Dave that turned out to be wrong. Who would go do all that work just to night kill the very person you were trying to lynch?

Alright given that, Only White_Eyes did not post before the end of night. Given BSmith's post on White_Eyes and my own feelings on his quasi absence. I'm going to Vote: White_Eyes. I can't get that vote for Csargo, and the subsequent "Oh I guess I voted for a dead guy" post that came just 30 minutes after the write-up, out of my head. For me It seems he's been carefully treading the line between being almost WOKed and not.

[DaveShack]

He has made several posts about not being very experienced, yet he has been playing mafia at least as long as I have (more than a year now) and I don’t consider myself inexperienced.

A correction: I made several posts about being useless when vanilla with insufficient information, not about being inexperienced.

I too am not sure what to think of being targeted.

[edse]

Vote: White_Eyes DaveShack was the only one I regarded as innocent.

[Montmorency]

Um, intolerable mud-minded corporeals guys...

[edse]

Um, intolerable mud-minded corporeals guys...

Any sane mafia would leave me alive until tomorrow as lynchbait.

[LazyMcCrow]

Um, intolerable mud-minded corporeals guys...

What?

OK. I'm as surprised as you guys at the Daveshack kill, but unless it is simply a mistake by White_Eyes:D as you guys seem to think, its could actually be a pretty clever kill, as it does a reasonably good job of sowing additional confusion. I have to assume that any of my three fellows are more than capable of pinning that kind of shizzle onto an innocent, and so it doesn't do much to help me choose a new suspect.

So - I must either choose White_Eyes:D, as most likely to have made a mistake, OR I choose BSmith as indicated by the Dead - and yet still very present (and still able to vote?) God of War. OR i make my own choice based on my deductive powers and razor-sharp sense of intuition.

Well - I think Daveshack's reaction to my accusations last night pretty much made me feel like I'd got it wrong, I think I should probably rule out option three. I am inclined to believe that White_Eyes:D made an error, but I think that a wagon on him right now would be less than productive if we got it wrong and it WAS actually some sneakiness on the part of edse, BSmith or Lewwyn. We still don't know if the Gods vote counts in any way - I think I shall:

vote: BSmith

for now and hope that the way the votes fall will provide more evidence.

[White_eyes:D]

DaveShack was the only one I regarded as innocent.

Gentlemen, we have our killer.

Vote:edse

[LazyMcCrow]

Gentlemen, we have our killer.

Vote:edse

ummm. What?

[LazyMcCrow]

White eyes: 2 (Lewwyn, edse )
Edse: 2 (BSmith, White_Eyes:D)

Bsmith: 1 +1 (Lazy, + Monty)

Not sure what to do. I'm happy to drop my vote from BSmith onto either White Eyes or Edse as frankly I am equally suspicious of either. White_eyes:D needs to explain further his apparent revelation (sorry if I'm stupid here but I don't see the 'obvious'ness) and Edse needs to just look less scummy in general - its like everything you've done pongs a bit. Why White_Eyes:d instead of BSmith or me again?

[edse]

Gentlemen, we have our killer.

Vote:edse

What?

I'm happy with whoever of White_Eyes and BSmith that gets lynched.