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    Default Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan

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    Can you be more specific about the sources of aforementioned funding and their relation to Uncle Sam?
    Peter King, just one such lawmaker who was never brought to justice for his role in arming a group which killed hundreds of British and Irish.

    http://motherjones.com/politics/2011...rorism-problem

    Clinton by granting visas to Sinn Feinn members who had connections with and actively supported the PIRA gave them a platform of legitimization which provided further endorsement for their cause which legitimized groups such NORAID, a group which gave more money and arms to the PIRA than Libya itself. Imagine giving a platform to radical Islamist politicians (i.e the Taliban) who supported Al-Qaeda and then see why I see double standards.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-1410627.html


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    Peter King, just one such lawmaker who was never brought to justice for his role in arming a group which killed hundreds of British and Irish.

    http://motherjones.com/politics/2011...rorism-problem

    Clinton by granting visas to Sinn Feinn members who had connections with and actively supported the PIRA gave them a platform of legitimization which provided further endorsement for their cause which legitimized groups such NORAID, a group which gave more money and arms to the PIRA than Libya itself. Imagine giving a platform to radical Islamist politicians (i.e the Taliban) who supported Al-Qaeda and then see why I see double standards.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-1410627.html
    Interesting... a quick look at wiki puts the claim of NORA being the front for PIRA as questionable at best. You're besmirching the name of American government because one congressmen supports a non-profit organization that *might* have been linked to PIRA, even though in its mission statement it clearly disavows violence.

    As for Clinton and Sinn Fein, Sinn Fein has been a political movement while IRA did the dirty work. We support PLO but consider Al Aqsa Martyrs brigade to be terrorists, same deal here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tibilicus View Post
    Peter King, just one such lawmaker who was never brought to justice for his role in arming a group which killed hundreds of British and Irish.

    http://motherjones.com/politics/2011...rorism-problem

    Clinton by granting visas to Sinn Feinn members who had connections with and actively supported the PIRA gave them a platform of legitimization which provided further endorsement for their cause which legitimized groups such NORAID, a group which gave more money and arms to the PIRA than Libya itself. Imagine giving a platform to radical Islamist politicians (i.e the Taliban) who supported Al-Qaeda and then see why I see double standards.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-1410627.html
    It's also worth remebering that the Americans would have had members of congress and it's security establishment engage in contact with the IRA in order that if they did somehow drive the British out they would not end up in the soviet camp.

    A soviet satelite in the Atlantic could not be allowed ever as it would give soviet subs an ice free, blue water harbours less than a hours flight from London.

    It would have destabilised the NATO plans which no doubt were based on complete control of sea access to the UK.

    So yes some shadowy evil in the CIA prob sat down and wargammed IRA senarios on what might happen, and sometimes they might even have engaged in a bit of double dealing.

    It's a stretch however to say there was ever full or real governmental support, it's like saying the UK governments supported IRA terror on themselves because all the spies in it's ranks who continued to engage in terror activities to maintian cover.

    And I already explained the visa situation with regard to Gerry Adams, that visa was acknowledged as really driving the agreement forward. (afterwards of course) I understand you dislike having to treat with Gerry Adams but thats the game and you know that yourself.
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