Murders in France

[Fragony]

I haven't got a point, I'm trying to figure out what your point is.

How could you have missed it as I am pretty clear on it, it's the islam.

[rvg]

How could you have missed it as I am pretty clear on it, it's the islam.

That can't be! Islam is a religion of peace!!! Please do not badmouth Muslims' peaceful religion, otherwise they'll have to kill you.

[econ21]

The latest stories are that the murderer was a petty criminal who went off to wage jihad in Afghanistan, where he was imprisoned for planting IEDs but escaped in a mass breakout in 2008. He's been under surveillance by French authorities for some time and was fingered for the current outrages when a garage recalled that he had his bike sprayed a different colour between the attacks (the attacker's bike changed colour between the attacks). The French are determined to catch him alive to stand trial. I hope they succeed, because I am not convinced he acted in isolation and getting more information on his contacts would be useful.

[Lemur]

Apparently he is cornered, and it's now a question of whether this will end with his arrest or death.

[CountArach]

How could you have missed it as I am pretty clear on it, it's the islam.

You're really going to politicise these deaths?

[Fragony]

You're really going to politicise these deaths?

It's not politics it's a religion, shove it on the plate you eat from as long as it isn't mine, not my problem as long as it keeps a distance.

[PanzerJaeger]

Nazis were much more politically correct bad guys. The authorities must have been quite dismayed to discover it was an Islamist.

[rvg]

Nazis were much more politically correct bad guys. The authorities much have been quite dismayed to discover it was an Islamist.

Dismayed, but hardly surprised.

[gaelic cowboy]

hopefully this standoff will be resolved peacefully and the nutter brought to justice.

Nazis were much more politically correct bad guys. The authorities must have been quite dismayed to discover it was an Islamist.

One could imagine twas a secret hope many a rogue had on the left due to the election coming up.

Now of course the Left have to a face potential hardening of public opinion just when Le Pen and Sarko are appealing to same.

There best way to spin this is not to spin it at all, then claim revulsion that the Right would use tragedy to win vote.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

You're really going to politicise these deaths?

I believe Frag's point is that the "religion" is "kill the infidel for the glory of Allah" in this case.

So the fact those Algerians were targeted makes perfect sense, they supported the Infidel.

If I read Frag right his point is that it doesn't matter how much you try to accomodate these people, because they have a fundamental hatred for everything you stand for, right down to what you do and don't believe about their God. There is no reasoning and accomodation for these people, only war, and trying to live with them just isn't on the cards.

It is, of course, true that this isn't the case for all or even the majority of Muslims, but for those who few where it is true that is what "Islam" means to them.

I believe Frag is oblique about this because he sees it as obvious.

[Fragony]

I believe FRag is oblique about this because he sees it as obvious.

Thanks for that

[Hax]

So the fact those Algerians were targeted makes perfect sense, they supported the Infidel

And yet these same Algerians will now be regarded as somehow inherently hostile to France. That makes a lot of sense, right.

Algeria not being French confused France as well.

You're not seriously claiming Algeria is an Islamic country, right?

[rvg]

You're not seriously claiming Algeria is an Islamic country, right?

Why not? It's almost 100% muslim and has a very significant salafist presence.