Murders in France

[HoreTore]

I am calling GIA and GSPC hardline islamists. FIS is more or less part of the establishment. Still very much an islamist movement.

Algeria's rise as an independent state was a part of a liberation wave that swept most the arab world in the 50's and 60's. It.s politial makeup was quite unique to the region. We had the Baath party, Nasserism, etc, and they all shared three main components. Firstly nationalism, in that they sought to create independent states, or in the case of pan-arabism, independent unions/blocs. Secondly, the anti-oppression aspect of socialism, as well as some form of protection to the poor. It's important to note that they were not at all marxist, Nasser sought "positive neutrality" in the cold war Thirdly, a positive stance towards religion, in that they did not seek to abolish it like the commies.

Labelling the ideologies that emerged in the arab world after the war simply "islamist" is a gross oversimplification, and quite simply wrong as well. Oh well, I'm sure that there are those who would happily call the Baath party, founded by a greek orthodox, islamist as well...

[rvg]

Algeria's rise as an independent state was a part of a liberation wave that swept most the arab world in the 50's and 60's. It.s politial makeup was quite unique to the region. We had the Baath party, Nasserism, etc, and they all shared three main components. Firstly nationalism, in that they sought to create independent states, or in the case of pan-arabism, independent unions/blocs. Secondly, the anti-oppression aspect of socialism, as well as some form of protection to the poor. It's important to note that they were not at all marxist, Nasser sought "positive neutrality" in the cold war Thirdly, a positive stance towards religion, in that they did not seek to abolish it like the commies.

Labelling the ideologies that emerged in the arab world after the war simply "islamist" is a gross oversimplification, and quite simply wrong as well. Oh well, I'm sure that there are those who would happily call the Baath party, founded by a greek orthodox, islamist as well...

Well, the thing is that I provided a link with the information on the Algerian legal system which looks rather blatantly islamist. All you're providing is an opinion....

[HoreTore]

Well, the thing is that I provided a link with the information on the Algerian legal system which looks rather blatantly islamist. All you're providing is an opinion....

I have no desire to debate with people who obsess with links. When discussing the politics of a given country after a specific claim has been made, I take it for granted that the people who engage in said debate already has the required pre-knowledge.

[Fragony]

I have no desire to debate with people who obsess with links. When discussing the politics of a given country after a specific claim has been made, I take it for granted that the people who engage in said debate already has the required pre-knowledge.

Good for you, Nasser is an Egyptian by the way

[Major Robert Dump]

I like it how all the witty speculation dries up when the badguy turns out to be exactly what folks were hoping he wasn't for the sake of proving that others commit crimes just as bad as "those people."

[Brenus]

When you have a Christian Democrat Party, do we considered the country as a Christian Republic? I am not a lover of Islam (err, religions in general in fact) but because there are Muslim Parties it doesn't mean that the country is Islamic.
As the murderer who built his fantasy world around what he read in the Net, he is dead, a shame for his family and a burden for his co-religionists who are most of them atheist, and just follow the Islamic way as part of the family tradition.
You did notice that the ban of the burkha didn't result in a wave of emigration from France, nor mass demonstration or riots...
That is the answer to this stupid murderer, who got caught because he used his mother's computer and din't know how to switch off the GPS of the motorbike he has stolen to his first victim. I wonder what they are trained for, in Pakistan...
He will finish forgotten as Kelkhal, and only useful as temporary fertilizer for plants and food for bugs.

[Fragony]

I like it how all the witty speculation dries up when the badguy turns out to be exactly what folks were hoping he wasn't for the sake of proving that others commit crimes just as bad as "those people."

I got a sadistic touch, I am amused by that as well. The multicultural left dived on this like a pack of starved hyena's and they now kinda look like the idiots we know they are for making so much noise. Got to love desperation.

[Whacker]

I like it how all the witty speculation dries up when the badguy turns out to be exactly what folks were hoping he wasn't for the sake of proving that others commit crimes just as bad as "those people."

Well crap! So Germany is invading France again!?!?

[Brenus]

"I like it how all the witty speculation dries up when the badguy turns out to be exactly what folks were hoping he wasn't for the sake of proving that others commit crimes just as bad as "those people." Do you mean, "like the Norvegian one"? Because no body accused the Christianity for his murders... And he was much more efficient than the Islamic lunatic we've got in France...

[HoreTore]

Good for you, Nasser is an Egyptian by the way

Seriously?