The Racist Left Strikes Again

[Strike For The South]

Come on Strike, modern Americans are not victims of slavery. Anyone can look back at their heritage to get an excuse to hate certain people, but it is BS. Stop making excuses for racism. I am part Jewish on my mother's and my father's side, does that mean that I have to hate Germans? What have Germans done to me personally? There is no excuse, so don't try to make one.

I don't expect you to understand nuance.

Black Americans are most certainly affected by racial legacy of this country. I never said victims. It is also not an excuse for anything but it does offer some partial explanation of why black people are so dispirportionaitly poor, imprisoned, and born out of wedlock.

I also don't care who you hate, it's most likely for some inane, petty reason, much like a child

[Vuk]

Would like the president of the US to go out and personally rebuke a coked up old man who really doesn't matter?

I can assure you conservatives who don't matter get away with saying dumb things too.

Vuk I have a book I would like you to read, provided you are in fact literate.

No, of course I wouldn't expect any reasonable President to, but Obama has set those expectations by rebuking others. Either he is playing favorites, or he should rebuke someone like Barry.

So in other words, leftists bad, rightists victimized, system unfair. Got it.

And that doesn't sound ... familiar?

Do I believe that leftists are wrong? Yeah, of course I do. I never denied that. Do I believe that they are hypocrites? Of course. I don't remember denying that.

I don't expect you to understand nuance.

Black Americans are most certainly affected by racial legacy of this country. I never said victims. It is also not an excuse for anything but it does offer some partial explanation of why black people are so dispirportionaitly poor, imprisoned, and born out of wedlock.

I also don't care who you hate, it's most likely for some inane, petty reason, much like a child

Here is a surprise for you Strike: all racists have a reason to be racist, and usually a pretty good one too. That does not make it any better. Every racist looks back on a history of abuses, and/or current trends or abuses to justify their racism. Every racist, black, white, Hispanic, etc. has a really good argument for their racism, and most believe them. Everyone though is flawed in some small way, but nonetheless very convincing and moving. It does not make one person's racism any better than another's.
Discrimination is why so many are born out of wedlock? Come off it. That is an individual choice based on individual beliefs. No one is forcing anyone to not marry. Stop with the victimization. Yes, there are people who experience real racial discrimination (people of all races, including white people), but saying things like that is just so cheap that it makes you lose all credibility.
And for someone who is accusing me of being illiterate, you spelling is pretty atrocious. What was it you majored in again? Sweat?

[Lemur]

Do I believe that leftists are wrong? Yeah, of course I do. I never denied that. Do I believe that they are hypocrites? Of course. I don't remember denying that.

Not suggesting any of that. But when you assert that your group is victimized and the other guys get a free pass and the system is rigged: Who do you sound like?

[Vuk]

Not suggesting any of that. But when you assert that your group is victimized and the other guys get a free pass and the system is rigged: Who do you sound like?

Oh! Let me guess! Hitler? Stalin? Obama Pol Pot?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Oh! Let me guess! Hitler? Stalin? Obama Pol Pot?

Your mind is like a baby's diaper. It needs to be thrown out when it gets full.

[Vuk]

Your mind is like a baby's diaper. It needs to be thrown out when it gets full.

They accused me of a cheap shot, so I decided I would make one.

[Strike For The South]

Here is a surprise for you Strike: all racists have a reason to be racist, and usually a pretty good one too.

This is patently false. My grandmother belivied blacks carried African dieases and that I shouldn't share food with them. People have their prejeduces and work backwards to try and justify them

That does not make it any better. Every racist looks back on a history of abuses, and/or current trends or abuses to justify their racism. Every racist, black, white, Hispanic, etc. has a really good argument for their racism, and most believe them. Everyone though is flawed in some small way, but nonetheless very convincing and moving. It does not make one person's racism any better than another's.

Are you talking about historically? Well, yes every group that people identify with blood or citizenship has been given the shaft at some point. Black Americans were given the shaft very hard for a very long time and are still working within that same social structure today. As are white people, even the bloated definition we used today (it went to hell when we started letting the Italians in) are benefactors of that system

Discrimination is why so many are born out of wedlock? Come off it. That is an individual choice based on individual beliefs. No one is forcing anyone to not marry. Stop with the victimization. Yes, there are people who experience real racial discrimination (people of all races, including white people), but saying things like that is just so cheap that it makes you lose all credibility.

I never said discrimination, you assume things becuase you can't come off you're talking points. Which were not doubt concivied in some marathon long stare down with your computer screen. A truly Herculean task for you, I'm sure.

And for someone who is accusing me of being illiterate, you spelling is pretty atrocious. What was it you majored in again? Sweat?

[Vuk]

This is patently false. My grandmother belivied blacks carried African dieases and that I shouldn't share food with them. People have their prejeduces and work backwards to try and justify them

But where did she get her prejudices from? From a people who saw a culture in Africa where things went on that they believed were atrocious. When looking to why this was, the most obvious answer for them was race. What separated them from Africans that was the most apparent to them was their skins colour. They associated that culture with the race. Modern beliefs that white racists have about blacks usually descended from these original beliefs. Mix that with the fact that AIDs is such a problem in Africa and American black communities, and that blacks are much more likely than whites to be involved in crime, and the arguments for racism become a lot more understandable. That does not mean that they are correct, but it also does not mean that a person is necessarily stupid or evil for believing it. Black racists have the current disparity in wealth and position between whites and blacks, as well as a history of slavery to base their racism on. Again, a convincing argument to breed resentment. Doesn't mean it is right though. Chinese have a history of being exploited as 'Coolies', discrimination by blacks, whites, and Hispanics, and current stereotypes against them to encourage racism. Everyone can make a good case for it, but it does not mean that it is any more right.

Are you talking about historically? Well, yes every group that people identify with blood or citizenship has been given the shaft at some point. Black Americans were given the shaft very hard for a very long time and are still working within that same social structure today. As are white people, even the bloated definition we used today (it went to hell when we started letting the Italians in) are benefactors of that system
You are making it way too black and white. Our society and political system in many parts of America actually discriminate against white people. In other parts, black people. In other parts, society holds stereotypes and expectations that hurt both in different ways. It is a lot more complex than 'helps one, hurts the other.

I never said discrimination, you assume things becuase you can't come off you're talking points. Which were not doubt concivied in some marathon long stare down with your computer screen. A truly Herculean task for you, I'm sure.

I didn't understand the last part, so I will not even attempt to answer it. Please try next time to use proper spelling and grammar, or at least something that is remotely understandable. I don't care if you think like a hick, but you don't have to spell like one.

[Strike For The South]

My Grandmother didn't have to think about where her beliefs came from, it was the zeitgeist. Blacks are more likely to have Aids because of poor sex practices and a higher rate of population in major urban centers. Blacks "commit" more crimes becuase more police patrol there neighborhoods and the sentences they get are much harsher than their white counterparts. Lies, Damned lies, And statistics.

You are constantly moving the goalposts. You are going back and forth. Racism is wrong but that's not really what I'm talking about anymore.


The entirety of the American social and political structure is skewed towards white privellge. The most ambitious program of AA could not overcome the social cues we are given from we are very young. It is very subtle but it's there. I also don't think there is much we can do about it.

I haven't spelled right on this forum my entire time here, I'm certainly not going to start for you

[Vuk]

My Grandmother didn't have to think about where her beliefs came from, it was the zeitgeist. Blacks are more likely to have Aids because of poor sex practices and a higher rate of population in major urban centers. Blacks "commit" more crimes becuase more police patrol there neighborhoods and the sentences they get are much harsher than their white counterparts. Lies, Damned lies, And statistics.

You are constantly moving the goalposts. You are going back and forth. Racism is wrong but that's not really what I'm talking about anymore.


The entirety of the American social and political structure is skewed towards white privellge. The most ambitious program of AA could not overcome the social cues we are given from we are very young. It is very subtle but it's there. I also don't think there is much we can do about it.

I haven't spelled right on this forum my entire time here, I'm certainly not going to start for you

I could swear that you have the reading comprehension skills of a 2 year old Strike! I was not making an argument for racism, nor saying that the arguments hold water, I simply demonstrating that they can sound very convincing (which is not the same thing as being right). As far as white privilege in modern America, it still exists in some places and organization, but 'minority privilege' does in others. Society as a whole makes whites feel guilty and blacks feel like victims. Asians just don't matter in the narrative we are taught from childhood. The truth is though that real life is a lot more complex than that simple 'blacks victims, whites oppressors, no other race is important except as a larger group of minorities that only exists to increase the white man's guilt' argument.
There was a time in our society when black really were systematically abused and discriminated against on the basis of their race on a large and official scale, but that is no longer the case. The current 'race situation' in America is far more complex.
You are not going to start spelling correctly for me? How about for yourself. You make it glaringly obvious what a hick you are.

[Strike For The South]

I could swear that you have the reading comprehension skills of a 2 year old Strike! I was not making an argument for racism, nor saying that the arguments hold water, I simply demonstrating that they can sound very convincing (which is not the same thing as being right). As far as white privilege in modern America, it still exists in some places and organization, but 'minority privilege' does in others. Society as a whole makes whites feel guilty and blacks feel like victims. Asians just don't matter in the narrative we are taught from childhood. The truth is though that real life is a lot more complex than that simple 'blacks victims, whites oppressors, no other race is important except as a larger group of minorities that only exists to increase the white man's guilt' argument.
There was a time in our society when black really were systematically abused and discriminated against on the basis of their race on a large and official scale, but that is no longer the case. The current 'race situation' in America is far more complex.
You are not going to start spelling correctly for me? How about for yourself. You make it glaringly obvious what a hick you are.

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