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    Oh look, a bloody head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    Oh look, a bloody head.
    As I have said repeatedly, a confusing case. But a trial is the best chance to get to the bottom of it, even though the original police and prosecutor conduct may doom any chance of finding the truth. And even if the new prosecutor has mishandled the probable cause affidavit. Hell, even if every person in every step mishandles everything, I challenge my fellow Orgahs to come up with a better scenario than a trial for sorting this mess out.

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    My biggest concern about charges against Zimmerman is that they seem to have been brought on purely for the satisfaction of the mob. That kinda rubs me the wrong way.
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    For the last several days the prosecution has said they were going to keep him from getting bail with their spectacular case. The best they did today was put a detective on the stand who said "I don't know" a spectacular amount of times. Surely they can do better than this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    For the last several days the prosecution has said they were going to keep him from getting bail with their spectacular case. The best they did today was put a detective on the stand who said "I don't know" a spectacular amount of times. Surely they can do better than this.
    If they could have, they would. To me, this is clearly a case that has extreme political motivations, and the prosecutors are being pushed to move forward with whatever they have. As you pointed out, it looks pretty weak so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    As I have said repeatedly, a confusing case. But a trial is the best chance to get to the bottom of it, even though the original police and prosecutor conduct may doom any chance of finding the truth. And even if the new prosecutor has mishandled the probable cause affidavit. Hell, even if every person in every step mishandles everything, I challenge my fellow Orgahs to come up with a better scenario than a trial for sorting this mess out.
    It depends. Someone with a US legal background can correct me, but my understanding is that 1. the prosecutors office does have discretion on what it takes to trial, and 2. in order to actually take something to trial, the prosecution has to have a pretty damn good understanding of the situation, a very solid amount of evidence, which in turn points toward the accused being guilty.

    I am somewhat in agreement with your statement and somewhat not, based on how I am interpreting what you said. A trial is not the proper venue for the prosecution to determine "facts", as they see it. The whole point of pre-trial preparation is to have all one's ducks in a row and a firm grasp of how they are going to proceed with the court proceedings. The purpose of the actual trial itself is so that one may be judged by a panel of their peers.

    The fact that this does not appear to be going well for the prosecution thus far is telling in a few ways. It could be one of or a combination of mishandling by the police, mishandling by the prosecutor's office, or a general lack of real, actual evidence with which to proceed. Whatever comes out of this, it certainly is seeming to me that we may never know the actual truth and circumstances of what happened that night.

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