Merkel Is Getting Me All Hot And Bothered

[Sarmatian]

I guess I'm not a real German then because I often root for the dutch team when they play against Germany.

Blasphemy!!!

After a... well, forever, we have a German team that's actually likeable in addition to being good and you say THAT?

You sir, are an insult, to the German nation and the sport of football and Mario Goetze.

[Husar]

Blasphemy!!!

After a... well, forever, we have a German team that's actually likeable in addition to being good and you say THAT?

You sir, are an insult, to the German nation and the sport of football and Mario Goetze.

That's why I was rooting for both during the last world cup.
I'm still an insult to the sport of football though because I hardly care about it.

Which probably makes me even less of a proper german.

But then what am I? I was born in german, hold a german passport, german is my native language etc.
Yet I do not qualify for holding the most precious of german cultural traits!
Except for being overly correct perhaps.

[gaelic cowboy]

@PVC Well seeing as we are a seperate nation were dam well allowed to root for the other guy did Arsenal fans cheer Man U in the champions league.
I always root for the other team when England are playing it's what we do I suppose it's because of who my family were and what they believed.







However England have a poor history of preperation for finals and there record is not stellar, naturally when having to watch a lot of British tellevision this fact is overlooked and if your not part of the english tribe then it becomes a point of ridicule. So people feel there supporting the little guy even if it's Brazil but then most everyone likes Brazil.

Essentially it is a way to innoculate the populace from violence at least in Ireland ye know tiny bit of disease to immunise you.

[Greyblades]

Bah! Football stopped being fun to watch back when there was still around 80 a side, weapons were commonplace, and fatalities were merely a way of keeping score.

[gaelic cowboy]

Bah! Football stopped being fun to watch back when there was still around 80 a side, weapons were commonplace, and fatalities were merely a way of keeping score.

Problem solved.

Weapons included and 15 a side team game Jackie Tyrrell Big Hits Collection (for some reason it's overly bright for about ten seconds)



THE BIGGEST HITS IN GAA 1

an it goes all the way up to 16

THE BIGGEST HITS IN GAA 16

[Greyblades]

Ach its not the same, no sport is fun to watch without the liberal application of mob violence!

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Oy carramba, this is childish. Do they even know why they hate the English?

Mostly because we created England, and then we made the remaining Celts speak English instead of their native language, see the demise of the Cornish language. In the case of the Cornish though, to a certain extent they are aping the Welsh. However, see below as well.

Okay, but how does being part of England impede their daily lives?

For the Cornish? Not much at all, not practically. To an extent though their lives are impeded by Westminster Centralism, the Cornish lobby sees this as "English vs Cornish" when in fact people in Devon have all the same problems.

You're right, it doesn't.

Except that the price of lamb remained static as £10 a head for 20 years and all the mines closed. Cornwall's economy relied on tin, but the mines are no longer profitable, so the county relies on Tourism but is still basically held up by central government funding, much like Alaska in the US it is incapable of self sufficiency.

At the same time, cultural regions in Europe are much smaller than the US, if you live in a particular place you can tell the difference between someone who lives 20 miles away and someone who lives 40, certainly you should be able to tell the next county over. As the child of parents who moved in from three counties over I am sometimes considered "foriegn" here in Devon, though that has to do with the difficulty of assimilating as much as actual prejudice.

This is one thing that has always puzzled me about the Old World: they nurture these centuries old hatreds as if those hatreds were backed by practical reasons, while in reality of course these are just tantrums that have absolutely no place in the 3rd millenium.

Is it really so puzzling though? It isn't everyone, and the US has similar cultural ticks focused on Europe. You also have the Southern attitude to "Yankies" and Lincoln, I don't expect that will change any time soon.

Yes, I remember, it went something like this: "and so, in the year 1314 the Scottish army, starving and outnumbered faced off against the English crown in a final battle, but we do not have the budget to show it. The End."

You'll note Mel hates the English too, he also made "The Patriot".

@PVC Well seeing as we are a seperate nation were dam well allowed to root for the other guy did Arsenal fans cheer Man U in the champions league.
I always root for the other team when England are playing it's what we do I suppose it's because of who my family were and what they believed.

However England have a poor history of preperation for finals and there record is not stellar, naturally when having to watch a lot of British tellevision this fact is overlooked and if your not part of the english tribe then it becomes a point of ridicule. So people feel there supporting the little guy even if it's Brazil but then most everyone likes Brazil.
Essentially it is a way to innoculate the populace from violence at least in Ireland ye know tiny bit of disease to immunise you.

Right....

but this can still lead to absurdities like the Irish supporting SA against England or a team from a country I have never heard of, rather than the people just over the way who are some of your closest kin.

[gaelic cowboy]

Right....

but this can still lead to absurdities like the Irish supporting SA against England or a team from a country I have never heard of, rather than the people just over the way who are some of your closest kin.

Absurdities??? eh I dont understand the question PVC I like the english people to be honest ..............................................................................but obviously I want to see the defeated in things like war and sport


I see it as just part of the natural order of things, you will get the odd Irish person who might keep an eye out for England but to be honest it's not the dominant view. Really it's about how we view ourselves in relation to England and how each region defines itself simply put supporting the other team is an easy way to announce to the world "Not English"

Also of all the regions I think were due a few sneaky shouts 1169-1921 is a long time, of course some people argue it should read 1169-present but I think were going beyond that now.

But sure never know England could meet France in Poland/Ukraine I promise to NOT cheer for France

[rvg]

Is it really so puzzling though? It isn't everyone, and the US has similar cultural ticks focused on Europe. You also have the Southern attitude to "Yankies" and Lincoln, I don't expect that will change any time soon.

No, not even close. Civil War was fought over ideology, not ethnic strife. While the South does have its distinct cuisine, culture and manner of speech, they still consider themselves American, moreso in fact than some liberals in Massachusetts or California. The ones I've met at least, and I've met many. As for ethnicity in general, it means nothing here. Race still matters, but ethnicity does not.