The trial of Anders Behring Breivik

[rvg]

I wouldn't say evil though.

Violence is the choice of the idiot, the loser and the lazy. Genuinly evil people find more elaborate ways to torment their victims than blind violence.

Why do you find evil and stupidity to be mutually exclusive?

[HoreTore]

Why do you find evil and stupidity to be mutually exclusive?

Good point.

Kadagar, engaging in politics and trying to persuade others that your opinions are correct takes a lot more effort than gunning down 77 unarmed civillians. The first is a lifetimes work, the second takes a couple of years in planning.

He was too lazy to do the hard stuff, so he chose the easy stuff. He is also completely incapable of accepting that people disagree with him. He didn't fight for his views, he gunned down those he disagreed with.

I don't know how he does on an IQ-test, but his intelligence in social science is awful. Rock-bottom.

[Fragony]

Good point.

Kadagar, engaging in politics and trying to persuade others that your opinions are correct takes a lot more effort than gunning down 77 unarmed civillians. The first is a lifetimes work, the second takes a couple of years in planning.

He was too lazy to do the hard stuff, so he chose the easy stuff.

You need to think like him, for him it's a longterm investment, none of these kids will become future leaders. That is also why he claims self-defence

[Viking]

40,000 people had no other things to do on a Thursday noon? I reckon they could have assembled a moon rocket in the relevant time frame.

Some 40,000 people have gathered on an Oslo square to sing a popular peace song which mass killer Anders Behring Breivik condemned at his trial.

The right-wing extremist had accused the singer of Children Of The Rainbow, Lillebjoern Nilsen, of being a Marxist who sought to brainwash children.

Nilsen led the crowd on Thursday in singing the song on Youngstorget Square, close to the courthouse.

[...]

In court last Friday, Breivik attacked Norway's educational system and singled out Nilsen as a "good example of a Marxist who infiltrated the cultural sector, [who] writes music that is used to brainwash children".

On Thursday, Nilsen led the singing in the square of Children Of The Rainbow, a Norwegian version of US folk singer Pete Seeger's My Rainbow Race, which is an anti-war song from his 1973 album of the same name.

[HoreTore]

"Blått hav så langt du ser..."

Viking, taking an hour off work is no problem in situations like this. And you need to consider the tons of students and school children...

[Viking]

That was at least partially humorous. I am always slightly creeped out by crowds like these. But if the common goal is to avoid getting eaten by the hungry lions surrounding us, then it's okay; as long as I am somewhere near the middle.

There's also something ironic about acting on weird stuff the wacko says; we got an endless supply there.

[HoreTore]

That was at least partially humorous. I am always slightly creeped out by crowds like these. But if the common goal is to avoid getting eaten by the hungry lions surrounding us, then it's okay; as long as I am somewhere near the middle.

There's also something ironic about acting on weird stuff the wacko says; we got an endless supply there.

I find it encouraging that this is the kind of remark people latch onto.

There are certainly enough coming out that people could react to, and which could lead to much worse things than public singing. So far these kinds of comments have been passed in silence, and I'm very happy about that.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Kadagar, engaging in politics and trying to persuade others that your opinions are correct takes a lot more effort than gunning down 77 unarmed civillians. The first is a lifetimes work, the second takes a couple of years in planning.

He was too lazy to do the hard stuff, so he chose the easy stuff. He is also completely incapable of accepting that people disagree with him. He didn't fight for his views, he gunned down those he disagreed with.

I don't know how he does on an IQ-test, but his intelligence in social science is awful. Rock-bottom.

This is a matter of persepctive, he is operating on a different set of norms to you. From his perspective, he is willing to kill and die for his beliefs - I recall he said he didn't exepct to be taken alive.

By contrast, all you do is talk. So, that make you the coward from his perspective.

Me - I suppose my views sit somewhere between the two, but I feel very strongly that to simply dismiss Breivik as lazy or cowardly is reductive.

[Rhyfelwyr]

As much as I don't like the bandwagon with lumping every unpopular ideology in with Breivik's, the bandwagon with calling him a coward is probably on the mark.

He says he planned to die, but I find that hard to believe since he chose not to go down all guns blazing. And targeting defenceless teenagers is a very cowardly and pathetic way to act.

Even if he was a lunatic I would admit that he had guts if he went down in a shoot out with the military or the police.

At the end of the day he targeted the defenceless and surrendered at the first opportunity.

[rvg]

And targeting defenceless teenagers is a very cowardly and pathetic way to act.

Then again, if his goal was to inflict as much pain as possible upon his perceived enemies, then he could not have picked more appropriate targets.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think the "coward" thing is weird too. He killed dozens of people. Who cares about cowardice? Or "laziness"?