[SS 6.4] Clash of Gods! OOC - winners Silver Shield, LooseCannon1 and Mithridate

[Nightbringer]

I took a look and I guess they require a large town to build. Been a while since I played early ss 6.4 I guess. And I'm pretty sure that town is enough in all other mods I've played.

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Crusaders CoG-Crusaders-T29.rar

[SilverShield]

man what a sausage fest there in italy french english spanish venetian. thats 8 armies for sure

venice up
http://depositfiles.com/files/1j579x2zq

[Nightbringer]

man what a sausage fest there in italy french english spanish venetian. thats 8 armies for sure

venice up
http://depositfiles.com/files/1j579x2zq

Sausage fest? But the French are here!

Will play the turn later tonight :)

[SilverShield]

nice one made me laugh

its old but anyway - legendary french field sign in ww2 - white cross on white ground

Sausage fest? But the French are here!

Will play the turn later tonight :)

[Myth]

Lol

Silver, did you by chance destroy any armies this turn?

[slysnake]

Lol

Silver, did you by chance destroy any armies this turn?

Last time I checked, Silver had by far enough stacks, near or approaching Italy, to do some serious damage to our own stacks there...

[Myth]

When my turn came, I saw that the HRE decided to attack Venice, so I besieged them with my best stack and protected the siege with a fort. Hopefully the CS was far away enough to not be able to reach me.

[Nightbringer]

Hey, I was starting my turn and, @Mithridate, I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to be attacking HRE settlements with that jihading stack. Is that correct @Myth?

[Myth]

Just the target city for the Jihad or an actual target city from the Muslim list. Also, any armies that might prevent or endanger either siege. Going on a landgrab along the way is not allowed, else we can just call one on Baghdad and eat the CS Egyptian lands and the Levante all in one Crusade.

[Nightbringer]

Just the target city for the Jihad or an actual target city from the Muslim list. Also, any armies that might prevent or endanger either siege. Going on a landgrab along the way is not allowed, else we can just call one on Baghdad and eat the CS Egyptian lands and the Levante all in one Crusade.

Well, that city isn't a target, and it looks like a couple other regions have been captured as well... :/

I'm guessing it is just an oversight, but I would like to work this out before playing my turn as it will likely impact my moves.

[SilverShield]

alright guys i had this crusade thing wrong too i also took settlements with the kwarz on the road but Myth is right this way this thing is just too strong of a vehicle. i think its best if i ll abandon the cities i took and have them gone rebel

alright its 4 settlements i took over the last 3 rounds i ll abandon them next round. had the whole crusade thing wrong. was the first time i used the crusade jihad thing

[SilverShield]

yea i took out one army and yea ironically it was a french army. tho what made me laugh was my disgust over that sausage fest in italy and NBs argument that the french are there - so less of a sausage fest altogether coz french are pussies so no sausage and thus less of a sausage fest. at least i guess thats what he meant but anyway i had a laugh


and yea that fort there blocking the path towards that city u are besieging somewhat saved that armys ass. tho u guys outnumber me by far. thats no secret. even with that one french army gone there still is 7 or 8 of urs that i counted. my forces are pretty limited but if i get a good shot alright i ll for sure take it like with this french army

Lol

Silver, did you by chance destroy any armies this turn?

[Nightbringer]

I'm alright with the settlements just being abandoned.

As to the french comment, yes, that is what I meant. (I honestly have nothing against the French though, and actually found them quite kind and hospitable during my visits to their fine country.) But, you know... :)

[SilverShield]

yea no offence to the actual french people just an old running joke



still fun tho





btw u still up in wotk

[Mithridate]

ive been away from this forum a lot, reading up on stuff now

I have captured regions on the path indeed. Ive marched in an arch, intent on hamburg mostly.

regarding Jihads, jihading armies have not been used to capture non-target settlements
Correction: The Cuman castle North of Byzantion was taken by a jihading army i think -.-'
For that i should be punished, but by/with what? It was off the course i used for most other forces, and it ended where i took the castle. 8 units i think, all of crapquality^^




Question: from way earlier in the thread, cant find atm. But did you guys not use a Crusade on the moors taking other regions?
Or am i simply mistaken? :P

[Nightbringer]

I wasn't in the crusade, but I believe it was only used on Cordoba, and some of the armies guarding the bridge to it, a very direct obstacle. As with Silver, I understand it is just a mistake and think simply having the cities rebel, or gifting them to their original owner, is probably the best thing to do. I don't have any hard feeling over it, I had to check myself to see if this was legal. :)
Of course, it is ultimately Myth's decision.

[LooseCannon1]

I wasn't in the crusade, but I believe it was only used on Cordoba, and some of the armies guarding the bridge to it, a very direct obstacle. As with Silver, I understand it is just a mistake and think simply having the cities rebel, or gifting them to their original owner, is probably the best thing to do. I don't have any hard feeling over it, I had to check myself to see if this was legal. :)
Of course, it is ultimately Myth's decision.

Wrong. wrong, wrong. The first crusade was called on Silves but the first attacks were directed at Murcia which is in the totally opposite direction for the Spanish armies to march to from Toledo. Since this was allowed even though I protested it is fair for Mithridate to attach any cities/armies along the way. Any other decision is simply hypocritical. Also there were at least 4 stacks of Spanish origin under crusade flags during the course of the war. As one "Muslim" faction can join neither jihad or Crusade this put our side at a total disadvantage.

[Myth]

I joined the crusade for MP only and just joined the siege of the Crusade's actual target. I was not aware that armies that were no obstacle to the crusading forces were attacked, seriously. I say, for the purpose of peace, have things proceed as they are and from now on we are clear on the rules.

[Nightbringer]

oh, ok, I guess I had it wrong. In that case, shall we just say no additional capturing of cities? Is it all fair game? Are both silver and mithri keeping their conquests? Is mithri allowed to continue taking HRE territory?

[Myth]

Let them keep what they had but from now on both teams play by the rules.

[Nightbringer]

seljuks up! @Mithridate
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...d=279&id=10150

[Mithridate]

Is mithri allowed to continue taking HRE territory?

To be clear, i have not with jihads. hamburg will be the one exception.

Jihad armies have only taken a cuman castle, a very minor force/jihad and a very unimprtant target.
Other regions along my marching path have been taken by Non Jihads. One Venetian region, One HRE ( Vienna i think ), arguable one hungarian two turns off the path.

Now, i still want/need to know... Can i use siege engines constructed by Jihad armies to capture non targets with non-jihad forces?
Jihad sieged on its path that is not direct, but the one ive used with all my forces. @Myth

Will play just before i go off to get my Diablo 3 Copy :D

[Myth]

No to the siege engines - you cannot attack, lay siege, assault or anything else with Jihad/Crusade forces if the city isn't on your list or your actual target, or the armies are not in the way.

[Mithridate]

I forgot to upload the save -.-' @slysnake

[slysnake]

England! @Myth

http://www.sendspace.com/file/gx0c9i

[Myth]

Leon up. @Thanatos Eclipse

Turn 9 for the Catholics who are holding Cordoba + 5 points
Total Catholic points - 55/100

A reminder to the Muslim team - let me know when you capture a target city, otherwise I cannot keep track of your points unless I remove the fog of war as an Admin and check on your positions. Right now, If you've taken a target city you need to tell me so I can start a count for your team.

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Sorry that I'm a little late, wasn't feeling well the last couple of days :/

Crusaders up!
CoG-Crusaders-T30.rar

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Oops, just remembered to send Silver a pm.

[SilverShield]

im off town guys i got this up tomorrow