Game of Thrones

**Sigurd** · 05-09-2012, 13:37

Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

I didn't like the dragon stealing change, didn't think it necessary. And I thought Jojen and Meera hadn't joined them yet.

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Not only that... They killed off Irri... which to my knowledge is still alive in the books? They just decided to ..

the books.. this takes too long.

**Hooahguy** · 05-09-2012, 13:54

Originally Posted by Sigurd

Not only that... They killed off Irri... which to my knowledge is still alive in the books? They just decided to ..

the books.. this takes too long.

It could have been other things. Maybe her contract is up or something. Or maybe she isnt really dead, just injured?

**Sigurd** · 05-09-2012, 14:00

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

It could have been other things. Maybe her contract is up or something. Or maybe she isnt really dead, just injured?

Nah, she was played by a Norwegian actress who confirmed that they just killed her character. "Sorry, we killed you" ...

**TinCow** · 05-09-2012, 14:44

I'm not too opposed to the changes they've made from the books. The fact is that there are way, way too many characters in the books to put them all into the television show. The show is already jam packed with so many major characters that it would be hard for people to keep track of them if they hadn't read the books. Could you imagine trying to develop three times as many as we've already seen? It just wouldn't work. So, they've got to strip out some characters for expediency, which also means stripping out some storylines. The important thing, to me, is that they keep the overall developmental purpose of the characters intact. In this sense, I think they've succeeded with almost every change they have made. Despite the changes they have made, the story still feels correct and the characters all seem to act the way they should. That indicates to me that the alterations have been handled wisely. The only exception is the theft of the dragons, which I don't quite see the point of and which could have character development implications for Dany that don't mesh well with the book. However, we haven't seen how it's resolved yet, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until next week.

**rajpoot** · 05-09-2012, 15:04

I'm just waiting to see if they cut off Rhaegar and Ellia's cameo in House of the Undying.
That bit is one of the two times 'song of ice and fire' is actually mentioned in the books. Very important IMO.

**rajpoot** · 05-14-2012, 10:47

Tywin and Arya, Jon and Ygritte. Going to be the most memorable pairs this season I'll wager. And it's almost sad to Robb and Jeyne, knowing how their story ends.
Also they've changed the Quarth storyline quite a bit, can't wait to see where Barristan Selmy makes his entry.
Also they seem to be going out of their way to make Cersei look like a tragic figure (or atleast less evil then she's portrayed in the books), and I cannot fathom why. If they keep doing this it'll get confusing very soon, as to which side is really the 'evil' side.

**Arjos** · 05-14-2012, 11:00

Oh come on, she's not evil...
The love of her life whispered the name of a corpse on the night of their wedding: pretty messed up :P

She's just overprotecting and quite spoiled...

**Greyblades** · 05-14-2012, 11:24

Originally Posted by rajpoot

Tywin and Arya, Jon and Ygritte. Going to be the most memorable pairs this season I'll wager. And it's almost sad to Robb and Jeyne, knowing how their story ends.
Also they've changed the Quarth storyline quite a bit, can't wait to see where Barristan Selmy makes his entry.
Also they seem to be going out of their way to make Cersei look like a tragic figure (or atleast less evil then she's portrayed in the books), and I cannot fathom why. If they keep doing this it'll get confusing very soon, as to which side is really the 'evil' side.

...Wasn't that the point? That the only truely evil Lannister is Joffrey and the rest are deeper than that.

**econ21** · 05-15-2012, 01:20

Originally Posted by rajpoot

Tywin and Arya, Jon and Ygritte. Going to be the most memorable pairs this season I'll wager.

I agree - they are fantastic; largely due to the skill of the actors/actresses but moving Tywin to be with Arya was a rather inspired directorial decision.

Also they seem to be going out of their way to make Cersei look like a tragic figure (or atleast less evil then she's portrayed in the books), and I cannot fathom why. If they keep doing this it'll get confusing very soon, as to which side is really the 'evil' side.

I much prefer TV Cersei to book Cersei. In the book, she just seems a rather stupid and utterly villanous Cruella de Ville kind of figure. But the TV actress presents a more emotionally deep and thoughtful character, even if still shown [repeatedly by Tyrion inter alia] to be wrong headed and bad.

By contrast, Jamie's escape seemed to paint him blacker than in the books - I don't recall his rather ruthless use of his fan club.