North Carolina Passes Amendment Banning Same-sex Unions

[Fragony]

But it would be recognised by law in civil union yes/no if such civil unions were allowed, clearly the question must be WHY does religious union also need recognition before law.

Why want it in the first place? imho gays are more intolerant than christians when it comes to this. It should be more than enough to be equal by law, why demand anything more? Very big boot that crushes everything hat doesn't suit them, christians have a right to live their lives as they see fit as well.

[HoreTore]

Why want it in the first place? imho gays are more intolerant than christians when it comes to this. It should be more than enough to be equal by law, why demand anything more? Very big boot that crushes everything hat doesn't suit them, christians have a right to live their lives as they see fit as well.

You seem to be speaking from a dutch perspective frags, one where gay and straight couples are equal by law.

This thread, however, is set in America, where gay and straight couples are not equal before the law.

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This thread, however, is set in America, where gay and straight couples are not equal before the law.

The problem is that gays instead of demanding to be equal to us demand to be the same as us.

[Fragony]

You seem to be speaking from a dutch perspective frags, one where gay and straight couples are equal by law.

This thread, however, is set in America, where gay and straight couples are not equal before the law.

No I understand that, and that is a disgrace, But a civil union would cover all that. You just can't have everything you want and especially not everything you want right now. Give it some time attitudes never changed because someone tells you not to think something.

[HoreTore]

No I understand that, and that is a disgrace, But a civil union would cover all that. You just can't have everything you want and especially not everything you want right now. Give it some time attitudes never changed because someone tells you not to think something.

The argument over a word seems irrelevant to me, and I find it highly unlikely that it can explain the rage we see from the christian right.

Also, it is of course completely irrelevant in this case, as the case here is a ban on all unions except the marriage between one man and one woman. So, civil unions go out the window.

[Fragony]

The argument over a word seems irrelevant to me, and I find it highly unlikely that it can explain the rage we see from the christian right.

If a word is meaningless I from now on demand that muslims must from now on adress Allah as god, same thing after all. Hey you brought them up it wasn't me. These guys just look at things differently than we do HT, it means something to them. Does it really mean anything to gays or is it just being gay that is important to them, no need to answer that

[HoreTore]

If a word is meaningless I from now on demand that muslims must from now on adress Allah as god, same thing after all. Hey you brought them up it wasn't me. These guys just look at things differently than we do HT, it means something to them. Does it really mean anything to gays or is it just being gay that is important to them, no need to answer that

No, we cannot make muslims call allah god, but we can certainly refer to allah as god.

Also, excuse my late edit, but in this case they also banned civil unions, so this discussion is irrelevant here.

[Fragony]

No, we cannot make muslims call allah god, but we can certainly refer to allah as god.

Also, excuse my late edit, but in this case they also banned civil unions, so this discussion is irrelevant here.

There perhaps are of now and I find it pretty damned rediculous. But the discussion is certainly not irrelevant. One could go as far as calling it denying nature allowing same-sex marriage as we are specifically build with a single purpose.