Non-Hispanic Whites Now Minority Births

[PanzerJaeger]

The only thing that bothers me about Mexicans in particular (and I know that Mexicans only make up a portion of non-white minorities) is Mexico. They seem to have a higher tolerance for corruption, mismanagement, low productivity, and organized crime among many other negatives. The origins of the country are extremely similar to the US, but the culture and/or society just do not seem to work very well in comparison to the US (and I'm certainly not saying the US is perfect). I would hate for such bad habits to be carried over the border and then become commonly accepted as Mexicans become majorities in many areas.

[Tuuvi]

No. New York is a city. When a city is diverse you call it cosmopolitan. When a nation is racially divided by different ethnic groups each dominating their own respective parts of it, you call it racially divided. Because what functions at the city level doesn't necessarily translate to the national level.

So this is the reality for a future white American in what has become 95% Hispanic Los Angeles. He will walk into a shop to get some burgers and roast chicken and whatever white Americans eat, when suddenly... all they sell is tacos nachos and fajitas. And every shop will be the same. And he will be left wondering how he became a stranger in his own country.

It will be like Chinatown, except the whole town in Chinatown.

Does it sound silly? Well, it won't be so funny when you walk outside your door and that's the reality.



If you read my posts you will see that I have acknowledged the cultural closeness and the integration that has already taken place. As I said, the issue is the pace of the demographic change, and whether it will reach a point where the assimilation starts taking place in the opposite direction.

Just because a nation is multi-racial doesn't mean it has to be racially divided. Mexican people like cheeseburgers and fried chicken too. Minorities seem to have a pretty easy time setting up shops and restaurants that specialize in their cuisine, so why would white people food disappear just because they become the minority?

The only thing that bothers me about Mexicans in particular (and I know that Mexicans only make up a portion of non-white minorities) is Mexico. They seem to have a higher tolerance for corruption, mismanagement, low productivity, and organized crime among many other negatives. The origins of the country are extremely similar to the US, but the culture and/or society just do not seem to work very well in comparison to the US (and I'm certainly not saying the US is perfect). I would hate for such bad habits to be carried over the border and then become commonly accepted as Mexicans become majorities in many areas.

In Mexico the Native Americans were a lot more densely populated than in North America, and they lived in urban societies. Because of this they had to be conquered and assimilated, unlike the US where the Indians were just pushed aside. After the conquest a race-based caste system arose with Indians on the bottom, Mestizos (who make up the majority of the Mexican population) in the middle and the white Spaniards on the top. To this day wealth in Mexico is still divided along those lines. My guess is that this is where a lot of Mexico's problems come from, it's lack of opportunity and social mobility.

[ajaxfetish]

To Rhyfelwyr:

Hispanic people may make up a small part of the total US population, but they compose a much more significant proportion in the southwest, and there white American and Hispanic culture have been in contact for centuries. They've already largely assimilated into American culture, and America has already largely assimilated their culture. The connections between Taco Bell and Mexico are not that strong. And we're talking here about babies born in the US. They're growing up here, already surrounded by this culture, already speaking English, already listening to rap music, already eating at Mickey Dees, already watching American Idol. Are there some differences? Sure. Do they matter? I don't think so.

And this level of demographic shift is hardly unprecedented in American history. It doesn't hold a candle to the shift between 1500 and 1900. Of course the previous culture didn't come through that one too well, but unless you're suggesting that Hispanic immigrants are bringing a pandemic of apocalyptic proportions combined with genocidal intentions, I hardly think this will be so catastrophic.

Ajax

[Centurion1]

The only thing that bothers me about Mexicans in particular (and I know that Mexicans only make up a portion of non-white minorities) is Mexico. They seem to have a higher tolerance for corruption, mismanagement, low productivity, and organized crime among many other negatives. The origins of the country are extremely similar to the US, but the culture and/or society just do not seem to work very well in comparison to the US (and I'm certainly not saying the US is perfect). I would hate for such bad habits to be carried over the border and then become commonly accepted as Mexicans become majorities in many areas.

This is incredibly insulting. Do you know any mexicans Panzer? They are incredibly hard working people and are known for it. If for some reason you see a gaggle of them outside of lowes looking for work and think they are lazy and should get a real job your a fool. They are willing to do whatever work they can get that white, black, and asian americans are too good for and they will do it for less. I don't want them to be paid less but those are still commendable qualities. We could ask for far worse immigrant populations moving in and shifting the culture than hard working, predominantly catholic, individuals. I would prefer our situation to our European friends'.

Also I'm talking about mexicans in particular not other latinos.

[Strike For The South]

Panzer is right. However, I am no more worried about the Mexicans than the Irish or the Italians. A heavy catholic influence generally hurts property rights and leads to the wealth being collected in oligarchies. The Mexicans may tolerate those things but only because that the way the rich act in their country and the church is in cahoots.

Also it's a misnomer that illegals will do jobs Americans wont. Those jobs do not pay anywhere near a livable wage, even if you are skimping on taxes. These illegals conger-agate around the main area of employment and leave the thing a mess.

I can't fault them thought, I fault the business owners and the American consumer

[Major Robert Dump]

Panzers post wasn't offensive. He was not criticizing mexicans in america, he was criticizing the mexican national government and psyche. I suggest reading up on what is going on south of the border, as it is already spreading to south texas in some cases. And yes, the idea that mexicans do jobs that americans won't is completely false. The reality is that american employers aren't willing to pay a livable wage, and migrant workers often live in overcrowded quarters and go without certain novelty things like auto insurance, so they can work for less.

Am I not allowed to say Cracker on this board?

[Papewaio]

Am I not allowed to say Cracker on this board?

Can I call you Polly?