The trial of Anders Behring Breivik

[Fragony]

I don't understand 60% of Frag's english posts.

I can do even worse in Dutch

[Skullheadhq]

I can do even worse in Dutch

Even when speaking?

[Fragony]

I can do even worse in Dutch

Even when speaking?

Speak it just fine, I will never be flawlesns in it, but I can speak English just as easily as I speak Dutch really.

[Skullheadhq]

Speak it just fine, I will never be flawlesns in it, but I can speak English just as easily as I speak Dutch really.

That doesn't promise much good

[Hax]

but if you are being payed for it it's kinda meh

Paid?

[Fragony]

Que?

[Papewaio]

If you want great English read an Irishman's writing.

[Fragony]

I must say I am starting to have doubts about Breivik being sane

[Beskar]

I must say I am starting to have doubts about Breivik being sane

I think it is rather fair to say, when if you near the point of Brevik, something has clearly broken upstairs.

[Fragony]

I think it is rather fair to say, when if you near the point of Brevik, something has clearly broken upstairs.

Goes for the RAF as well but they were not insane. Insanity is a reason to be sentence more mildly and he doesn't deserve that. Mind you, it is not about him having a point on something, what he did has a mind of it's own

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Paid?

Payed is still acceptable, if archaic.

If you want great English read an Irishman's writing.

Sad but quite true.

[Fragony]

Payed is still acceptable, if archaic.

It's just right, 'paid' sounds differently. Did the dumbing down of language hit you as well, why do so the English are naturals

[Viking]

From court today, echoing similar earlier statments:

Indepent of what the police arrives at now, it will within one year and three months be proven that I am speaking the truth. There will then be a new attack.

This is in reference to this 'Knights Templar' network/organisation, which the police doubts exists. Who knows.

He has been bluffing before though, so I won't hold my breath..

[Vladimir]

From court today, echoing similar earlier statments:

This is in reference to this 'Templar Knights' network/organisation, which the police doubts exists. Who knows.

He has been bluffing before though, so I won't hold my breath..

They've already struck, in Mexico: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012...rtels-cheetos/

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

At least one member of the Knights Templar cartel was reportedly arrested. Video has also emerged of firefighters battling the blazing trucks and the European Pressphoto Agency released images of Sabritas’ smiley-face mascot illuminated by the flames

A bit cheezy, I know.

[Fragony]

From court today, echoing similar earlier statments:




This is in reference to this 'Templar Knights' network/organisation, which the police doubts exists. Who knows.

He has been bluffing before though, so I won't hold my breath..

It wouldn't surprise me if it's actually real

[HoreTore]

From court today, echoing similar earlier statments:




This is in reference to this 'Knights Templar' network/organisation, which the police doubts exists. Who knows.

He has been bluffing before though, so I won't hold my breath..

My guess is that it's something he hopes he has invented through his actions and manifest. He hopes someone else will follow him within that time.

And considering the ABB love threads at kvinneguiden.no, maybe it's not that far-fetched...

[Fragony]

My guess is that it's something he hopes he has invented through his actions and manifest. He hopes someone else will follow him within that time.

And considering the ABB love threads at kvinneguiden.no, maybe it's not that far-fetched...

That's a real possibility but I think he's not kidding, something not happening would greatly lessen the impact of the Utoya massacre. He doesn't seem like the type that leaves anything to chance.

[Viking]

And considering the ABB love threads at kvinneguiden.no, maybe it's not that far-fetched...

So that has surfaced by now? It was to be expected, it's common that serial killers etc. have female "groupies" (even necrophiliac rapists, as shown in the link).

I don't think this phenomena will lead to any to any terrorist attacks though, it is a pretty different thing, I'd say. Some more on it here.

If he wanted people to follow him, I don't think going on a killing spree on a youth camp is a very clever move. I don't see how lying about meetings of an organisation that does not exist yet is going to benefit his cause, either.

[Fragony]

hohoho, freemasons = knights templar. Breivik is either crazy or he is not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights..._(Freemasonry)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Freemasons

[HoreTore]

The prosecution says he's psychotic and asks for forced psychiatric care.

They are not convinced, but they feel that the doubt is big enough that he cannot be found sane.

ABB was acting like a brat(as usual) when the procedure was read.

[Fragony]

I think they are wrong, and I think they are dumb

[Kadagar_AV]

Just shoot him and have it over with

[Greyblades]

As cathartic as that would be, I wonder if that would just make him a martyr to right wing extremists. I doubt that the horror of his actions and the general unhinged nature of his philosophy would be enough to discourage some from following his ideas.

[Kadagar_AV]

As cathartic as that would be, I wonder if that would just make him a martyr to right wing extremists. I doubt that the horror of his actions and the general unhinged nature of his philosophy would be enough to discourage some from following his ideas.

He's already a martyr. I just prefer them dead.

[Beskar]

What I find really weird is, that many people prefer to be sentenced to psychiatric care because the punishment is far less "severe" than the normal prison system. Also chance of reduced sentencing if his mental condition ever "improves".

[Kadagar_AV]

What I find really weird is, that many people prefer to be sentenced to psychiatric care because the punishment is far less "severe" than the normal prison system. Also chance of reduced sentencing if his mental condition ever "improves".

A) Psychiatric care is not "time-set"... which means he will never ever ever get out.
B) He did what he did as a political thing, to then shrug him off as a psycho totally devaluates (is that a word?) his actions.

[Fragony]

As cathartic as that would be, I wonder if that would just make him a martyr to right wing extremists.

indeed. Breivik isn't insane, he's a cold piece of shit but he is not insane. He must be fully held responsible for what he did. The IRA isn't insane, Al Quaida isn't insane, the RAF wasn't insane. There is obviously something wrong with them but they are not insane.

[Viking]

Contrary to what HT writes, the prosecution does not believe that Behring Breivik is legally insane. It is a principle of law that if there is reasonable doubt surrounding the defendant's sanity, he shall be sentenced to compulsory psychiatric care. The prosecution believes that the first psychiatric report has introduced such doubt.

The judges may reach a different conclusion, we have no indications on what conclusion they will reach.

[HoreTore]

That's not contrary to what I wrote, Viking, that's exactly what I wrote.

[Viking]

The prosecution says he's psychotic

Hm..

If it were not for the principle, I assume that they would have asked for punishment instead.