Football, Russia, Poland, Hooligans...

[Kralizec]

Fragony correcting others on the fineties of grammar.

Tis truly not long to kingdom come.

Shouldn't it be till kingdom come?

[Hax]

You know what, I don't think so!

[Kralizec]

Shouldn't it be till kingdom come?

You know what, I don't think so!

"Kingdom come" refers to an event in time. You wouldn't say "it's not long to tuesday", would you?

@ ajaxfetish: please tell Hax that he's wrong. Better yet: tell him that I'm right.

[spankythehippo]

Arguing about semantics on a thread about football violence? Good work, guys.

[Kadagar_AV]

Arguing about semantics on a thread about football violence? Good work, guys.

In all fairness, that is what I like about this forum. It's so filled with freaks that you NEVER know where things are gonna end up...

[Fragony]

Arguing about semantics on a thread about football violence? Good work, guys.

'IN' a thread, you are not sitting on it. The guy cleaning the roof isn't in school he's on it.

Gawd

Edit, it also puzzles me that you have yet to choose your Femen-chick. #6 and #23 are for the Swedish ski instructor and #14 and #15 for me, but a lot remain

[spankythehippo]

'IN' a thread, you are not sitting on it. The guy cleaning the roof isn't in school he's on it.

Gawd

We're not "in" the thread, are we? We're not part of the PHP of the forum. We just utilise it to post about something on a thread. I think. I actually have no idea.

I don't know. It doesn't sound right when I say it out aloud. "Arguing about semantics IN a thread about football violence?" Yep, it just doesn't sound right.

[Fragony]

We're not "in" the thread, are we? We're not part of the PHP of the forum. We just utilise it to post about something on a thread. I think. I actually have no idea.

I don't know. It doesn't sound right when I say it out aloud. "Arguing about semantics IN a thread about football violence?" Yep, it just doesn't sound right.

Mind the edit. Even if you are right you are still doing it wrong.

[spankythehippo]

Edit, it also puzzles me that you have yet to choose your Femen-chick. #6 and #23 are for the Swedish ski instructor and #14 and #15 for me, but a lot remain

Is this targeted at me? Because I don't get it.

[tibilicus]

Holding the tournament in Poland and Ukraine was a a mistake from the off. Both have very big problems with racism, hooliganism and a general dislike for outsiders. The police, whilst trying their best simply aren't up to the challenge. If you were kicked and spat on for simply being a certain nationality, race or even a different football fan the police would be all over the perpetrator like a rash, that is anywhere in Western Europe. The police are either too used to it or harbor such views themselves which can be the only explanation for refusing to act upon such actions. Its quite sad, really, such a poor advert for an otherwise beautiful part of the world. Was actually considering visiting Poland this summer but I think I'll steer clear now.

It's just such a shame that what could have been an expression of Poland and Ukraine's arrival into modern Europe turned out to be the revelation that these two countries are brutal, backward and best avoided.

[HoreTore]

Yeah, what I reacted to most in the video with the indians being beaten up was that nobody intervened. Nobody helped them. No other supporters. No guards. No police. Just despicable.

[Greyblades]

I hate crowd mentalilty sometimes, being compelled to not help someone because the people around you arent, the idea makes me sick.

[Montmorency]

208: [adjective] nor [adjective]

I'm not sure I grasp this one. Can you give an example?

I'd think up "He is strong nor fast" - what does that mean? T is next to R on most keyboards, so might it just be a typo?

[Tellos Athenaios]

It's a (boolean) algebraic expression. As you might say 5 + 3 = 8, you can say Proposition1 NOR Proposition2 = (NOT Proposition1) AND (NOT Proposition2), otherwise known as one of the laws of De Morgan.

[Montmorency]

In conversation?

Son, in life there are winners XOR losers.

[ajaxfetish]

I'm not sure I grasp this one. Can you give an example?

I'd think up "He is strong nor fast" - what does that mean? T is next to R on most keyboards, so might it just be a typo?

Good question. That option struck me as weird as well. It took a different method of searching, since searching for "[adjective] nor [adjective]" returns all the instances with neither or not preceding them as well as any without, so I just subtracted the number of occurrences with each of those, which left 208 still behind. Looking through the results more carefully, it looks like most of these instances also have a neither or not associated with them, just not coming immediately before. For example, "neither well reasoned nor good," "neither totally tame nor wild," "neither inherently good nor bad."

In some cases, the not has been extracted into a higher clause: "... the process which I believe you do not think was bipartisan nor transparent," "I do not believe it wise nor proper to force employees to follow a set of values they do not accept."

There are instances without neither or not (whether immediately before the first adjective or a little further removed), and these cases have instead another negated word preceding them: "There are a lot of nutritionists who say nothing is bad nor good, it's just the amount," "with credit that is no longer cheap nor easy to obtain," "For there is no more reasonable nor powerful assumption ..."

After a little searching through the returns, I'm not finding any instances of nor without another negative first licensing it, and no such instances are coming readily to mind, either. Far from it being ungrammatical for nor to occur with another negative-marked word in English, I think it's obligatory.

Ajax

[Fragony]

Sorry but you are wrong

'See the problem is you are not smart nor funny.'

Not and nor cancel eachother out.

So yes, either 'you are not smart or funny' or 'you are smart nor funny'