Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
You should know better than to rely on fascist sources, SFTS.

What the greens mean, is that gender roles are largely social constructs. They also hold the opinion that enviromental and structural forces play a bigger part in determining who you are than "free will".
So, really, they're Post-Modernists?

It's a movement, it's not as well thought of as it was.

Such beliefs were also held by such progressives as Aristotle, who relates the story of a young woman who got so excited and energetic she became a man.

Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
Stieg Larsson got his title right; Men who hate women. Sums up the far-right perfectly.

A strong, independent woman who makes her own decisions on how to live her life is a nightmare for fascists.
So long as she's a white European - and only abused by white Norwegian men.

Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
About the only thing I know about Stieg Larsson is that he made a cracking title for one of his books.
So, what you don't know is that he didn't believe Muslim women should have the same rights as white women - that it was more important to preserve "culture" than extend universal rights universally.

Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
He also has a dark dark past, I am not kidding he was the founder of the Norwegian neo nazi's
I think you'll find he was a former Communist radical, his surviving papers show he was terrified of being offed by Facist para-militaries. Also, see above about honour killings and forced marriages for Muslims.

Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec View Post
It doesn't matter if it's been that way for centuries. They're still social constructs, evolved to meet the needs of ages past. Gender roles don't serve any objective purpose anymore, probably haven't for the last two centuries - they only exist today because of social inertia.

Plus, for the vast majority of human history woman have been engaged in economicly productive work as well. The concept of the wife staying at home all day to do household chores instead of engaging in work that would feed the family is a rather recent development.
The claim that gender roles varied is a rather recent development, actually. The division of work has generally seen the man go "out" and the woman stay "in". Managing the household has generally been the preserve of the wife, at different times in different economies this has involved different things. Currently the paradigm is about the woman replacing the servants while the man takes on the task of bringing in cash to buy goods. In previous eras where women engaged in more "economic activity" as you call it households were more self sufficient and we did not operate using a solely cash economy.

The idea that these "constructs" have "evolved" is not logically defensible, not only do we have no history (i.e. written source) which does not include a gendered division of labour, but there is no evidence that the division developed AFTER our species evolved. Gorillas, for example, operate a gendered society just like humans.

What has fluctuated is the social value placed upon the gender roles. Your denegration of a "traditional" woman's role is a great example - running a household and raising children are in every way as demanding and potentially rewarding as a salaried job, if not more so, but society does not value these as contributions.