But Hore Tore, you always argue that drugs do not negatively affect people's behavior, and that that is all right-wing hate mongering! Suddenly they are evil when you need them to be...that is convenient.
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But Hore Tore, you always argue that drugs do not negatively affect people's behavior, and that that is all right-wing hate mongering! Suddenly they are evil when you need them to be...that is convenient.
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Re: Womans' children taken into care because of her political beliefs.
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Re: Womans' children taken into care because of her political beliefs.
Eh.......what?
I have never advocated in favour of drugs. Neither here nor anywhere else. You're mistaking me for someone else.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Womans' children taken into care because of her political beliefs.
uh huh. Might want to review your history on that subject buddy.
I remember you saying things like,
"Let all drugs be legal who cares. If people want to use them whatever. You can still be a functioning member of society even if you use drugs. If you think drugs are that bad you've probably never used them."
Ok bro.
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I don't like the EDL but this once again shows why I should despise the left
That false hatefull smile
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Re: Womans' children taken into care because of her political beliefs.
Haha!
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Womans' children taken into care because of her political beliefs.
Laugh all you want but the joke's on you, her kids are taken away by the the state because she disagrees with leftist people. They can, and they do.
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Gutless
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Re: Womans' children taken into care because of her political beliefs.
Not really, what can you do. The people who are stealing those kids because their parents disagree with leftist people carry guns, but you can't do such a thing.
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Duuuuuude...
You just started a thread on how Pot cures Nazism.
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Re: Womans' children taken into care because of her political beliefs.
That was an attempt at being funny. Apparently it failed.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Womans' children taken into care because of her political beliefs.
Hore is right. Let's hear from the social workers before passing judgment. If there is one institution I trust less than the British state, it is the British media. This reeks of sensationalism.
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We won't ever hear from the social workers though. The only indication we'll get is a judgement from a court, should it ever come to that. But even then, we won't get the details.
In short, social cases is every conspiracy makers dream. You can drone on and on and acuse social workers of every misdeed the world has ever seen, and noone will ever speak out against you.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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The only thing in my mind on this that doesn't come off as half baked. Thank you for voicing it.
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Re: Womans' children taken into care because of her political beliefs.
Who are we to judge the mother? Who are we to judge the social worker?
A single sensational article is what we use to judge people on?
Dudes...
One can claim there are problems with how this child protection agency (or whatever) is working. One could even argue against the need and existence of such an agency. But not based on this article. Personally I think there should be child protection agency's. I can't judge on how they work in the US, nor the UK. I can't really even judge how they are over here as I have little experience with them, nor knowledge of them.
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Re: Womans' children taken into care because of her political beliefs.
Rather like your current argument.
The point is not so much that she may or may not be an unfit mother - it is that other manifestly worse parents get to keep their kids.
I also know that from people who have been on the educator's side of the table. Plus - the child will go into care, which is unlikely to be better unless the mother is genuinely abusive.
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Yes, the main problem with child services is that too many abusive parents get to keep on abusing their kids.
How that is an argument in favour of letting yet another abusive parent continue abusing kids, is quite beyond me.
The case as I see it: the child services believe the mother is unfit, and that the children will be damaged should they reside with her in her current situation. So, they have decided to intervene. That decision is not one taken lightly, and I have no reason to second-guess them when they finally intervene. The rubbish about snatching kids from political opponents is something I disregard completely as utter nonsense. Child services do not work that way, and you have to be quite conspiratorial to believe it works that way. The mother is making desperate accusations, and as there is no evidence at all, it should be disregarded.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Womans' children taken into care because of her political beliefs.
I have to go with HoreTore on this one. I justy Googled the EDL and they appear to be a nasty bunch of racists who believe that violence and intimidation are valid tactics to achieve political and social goals. I have a feeling that there is much more to the story than we are being told, and probably never will be told, as the government must respect privacy rules and can't come out and say "We took her kids away because on four out of five visits to her home we found her doing meth while having sex with multiple ex-convicts," even if it is the truth.
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Re: Womans' children taken into care because of her political beliefs.
You gleaned all of that from the article linked in the OP?
Re: Womans' children taken into care because of her political beliefs.
Basically the same point - so I'll cover them together.
I the article partial?
Yes, certainly.
Even so, neither of you know what it is like over here - I live in a deprived area of the UK where up to 33% of children have parents who are too poor to feed them, apparently, and they get free school meals. Fourth kid on the way at 25? Over here the verdict would be "not trying hard enough". There are dozens of children I know of in a much worse state, the kid with eight siblings, another on the way, an unemployed single mother and a two bedroom house. He's a child and his life is already over before it has even begun.
What I have gleaned from the article is that this EDL-supporting women has the support of her Lib Dem MP. That's litterally one step above a Jewish MP supporting an actual Neo-Nazi, or at best two steps. That tells me the MP doesn't think there are sufficient grounds for taking her kids away due to her character and he wouldn't get casually involved given her political affiliation. If it transpires she has been beating her kids or locking them in the chokey I'll happily withdraw my complaint but if that were the case I would suspect it would already be known locally and, again, the MP would not be supporting her.
If it transpires the deciding factor against her is a far-right political connection than that is a travesty - especially given the vogue for anti-Muslim feeling among the Middle Class in this country.
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Horetore =
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
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