Small mafia game 'Guess what your role is' (aka 'role insanity') [Concluded]

[Arjos]

Yes, it's exactly what you've been doing.

For the record I haven't joined anything blindly: that day there were three suspects in my list and Ishmael's claim felt genuine to me, so I simply voted you...
Mainly because right after I asked for any of you to speak, you turned out asap with your claims, that seemed kinda forced...
While I acted during the night on the other suspect...

Now after this night I have confirmed data on you, all I need to do is finding out whether the source is lying or not...

[Chaotix]

Vote: Memnon The only one I've got anything on.

Vote: edse

What do you got on him?

Perhaps you should explaing yourself if you want people to vote with you.

[atheotes]

Vote: edse

What do you got on him?

Perhaps you should explaing yourself if you want people to vote with you.

Chaotix must be lynched....

[Montmorency]

CLAIM SHEET

Robbiecon - claims Monkey
*Didn't vote round Visor lynched
*Claims Edse, Memnon, and Daveshack innocent
Memnon - claims "two-target ability"
*Claims targeting of John and Arjos N2
*Claims to have targeted Classical and Nightbringer (killed) N1
*Suggested as an Oracle by Chaotix
*Visited John on the night Atheotes, a doctor, died
*8th on Visor wagon
Zaccino - claims "Commuter or Paranoid Gun Owner"
*3rd on Visor wagon
*Could also be a Gravedigger or spent Mayor
Edse - claims Watcher
*2nd on Visor wagon
*Claims Atheotes and Memnon visited John N2
Arjos - ?
*Voted Chaotix in round of Visor lynch
*Claims role-scan of JHT N2, yet was not one of his visitors
BSmith - Gravedigger
*6th on Visor wagon
Daveshack - claims "Single-target role"
*Targeted The King on N1, Memnon on N2
*Can only be a roleblocker, bodyguard, or protector
Chaotix - No claim
*7th on Visor wagon


Notes: *On N1, one kill
*On N2, 2 kills
*On N3, 1 kill
*Ishmael, lynched D3, was an insane Vig so could be responsible for N1 and one of N2 kill(s)
*JHT was a skitzo and possibly killed someone N2, after scanning N1; he was killed N3
*Taking this into consideration, who could be responsible for the N3 kill of JHT but Mafia? And yet it doesn't seem as though the Mafia killed on the first three nights, for some reason
*This leads me to believe that JHT was cursed by a Witch and the scum do not have a formal NK; did anyone visit John last night?

Witch – you put a curse on your target. If your target is visited by anyone else than mafia during the same night, he dies. Both doctors (and all their variants) and protectors will protect against this ability.

*Note that Atheotes was a Doctor and not a bodyguard, meaning that he did not "take" JHT's attack though JHT's skitzo on that night may have been redirected on him; this is evidence against Memnon having attempted an NK against JHT that night
*How could John's skitzo have been redirected onto Atheotes if no one seems to be a bus driver? At any rate, I couldn't find a statement by JHT as to his actual target on N2 (Is that anywhere in the thread?)... Unless this can be resolved, the possibility of a Mafia team-kill remains




Whose role have you assumed, BSmith?
What are your results for last night, Edse?
Whom did you target last night, Dave?
Whom did you target last night, Memnon?
Will you make a formal claim, Arjos? Same goes for Chaotix.


My recommendation is to lynch Chaotix today, and Robbiecon tomorrow, unless he nails scum today.

I bet the Mafia have a Witch, so be careful tonight.



Lynch Chaotix for his disposition this game, as well as:

Well, that's because I didn't. And I don't plan on it, either. At least not until it's no longer useful.

I don't want to make you suspicious, but neither do I want to paint a target on my face. Really, knowing everybody's role is just great for organizational purposes, but I hope you've realized that by everyone claiming their own roles in-thread the mafia know exactly who to go for first.

just before JHT's death. Sic 'em, boys.

[Memnon]

Yeah... I forgot my night orders lady night. What with work, cross country pre-season, and hanging out I was not available for mafia. Sorry guys. Also it appears that my laptop is missing, so I guess it's up to the phone for the next few days.

[Zack]

I'm the Commuter, Montmorency.

[Zack]

Definitive role-claims from Arjos and Chaotix would be nice.

[Montmorency]

I simply put down your own statement.

Given everything, the only non-scum roles that Arjos and Chaotix could be are: Role Scanner; Mayor; any two-target role; Blocker, Protector or Bodyguard

Edit: Well, certainly they could also be one of two other "fake-claimed" roles, if they are not both scum. Ok, so maybe that wasn't worth much.

...

TELL US YOUR ROLES

[Ishmael]

*Ishmael, lynched D3, was an insane Vig so could be responsible for N1 and one of N2 kill(s)

Nope, I only killed The King. I don't think I'm allowed to state my specific actions, but I can tell you that.

As for who to lynch, discounting all the claims flying back and forth, Chaotix has seemed the most scummy based on posting to me. It might be worth it for the surviving townies to reread his posts and see what they make of him.

[edse]

I see two candidates for the lynch, Memnon or robbiecon.

Memnon
-Visited jht and atheotes that was protecting him died.
-If Mafia: robbiecon's claim, that already feels to good to be true, is false and he should be lynched next
-If Town: robbiecon is as good as cleared together with me and DaveShack. That will be 3 out of 7 when the night begins.

robbiecon
-If Mafia: Memnon should be lynched next
-If Town: I, Memnon and DaveShack are as good as cleared. 3 out of 7.

[robbiecon]

Unvote; Vote: Chaotix

I'm going to trust Zaccino for now, and the only way to force a claim is to put some votes on a player.

[Montmorency]

Alright, my final contribution to this game. I won't be around to see how Chaotix flips.

I see two candidates for the lynch, Memnon or robbiecon.

Yes, I did say to consider a Robbie lynch tomorrow. If he is guilty, Memnon surely is as well. That will wrap the game up if true. For now, let's accumulate a 4th potential innocent.

Today, however, Chaotix must be considered. His scummy behavior and lack of claim...

Finally, I will FoS Arjos for failing to claim and for being a butterfly about the discussion.

Now after this night I have confirmed data on you, all I need to do is finding out whether the source is lying or not...

Explain this immediately. What source, Chaotix? No one else could have gathered info on Zack, given that we have heard the rest of the claims. Are you saying Chaotix is a role scanner here?

BSmith, Edse, and Dave need to put up their latest night actions ASAP.

Possible scum teams: *Robbie & Memnon
*Arjos & Chaotix

Note that Mafia would love to get a Commuter lynched.


BSmith, Edse, and Dave need to put up their latest night actions ASAP.

[Memnon]

I'm going to Vote: Chaotix as well, no reveal=scummy.

[edse]

BSmith, Edse, and Dave need to put up their latest night actions ASAP.

Nobody visited the person I watched. I won't say who to make it harder for the mafia to claim.

2 Chaotix: robbiecon, Memnon
1 Arjos: Zaccino
1 Memnon: edse
1 robbiecon: Arjos
1 edse: Chaotix

2 No Vote: BSmith, DaveShack

[Arjos]

I never claimed role-scanner, it was hinted that the Oracle sent that to me and I believe that person is Memnon...

I'm a recruiter, unfortunately I can't be certain whether I'm the mason or neighbour one, so I'm not 100% sure of the people I've recruited so far...

Note that Mafia would love to get a Commuter lynched.

And who was still voting for him after last night's scan? XD

[Memnon]

I never claimed role-scanner, it was hinted that the Oracle sent that to me and I believe that person is Memnon...

I'm a recruiter, unfortunately I can't be certain whether I'm the mason or neighbour one, so I'm not 100% sure of the people I've recruited so far...



And who was still voting for him after last night's scan? XD

If I am the oracle (which makes sense), then yes, I can confirm that John and Arjos were my targets.

[Arjos]

Memnon did you target two more players last night?
Also we really need you to scan robbie and send his role to someone you trust...

BTW edse, you should really stop wasting your vote on the Oracle...
You confirmed he visited and that night I got JHT's role, and both John and Memnon confirmed this...

Finally, I will FoS Arjos for failing to claim and for being a butterfly about the discussion.

That was because recieving 2 result PMs the first night I succeeded, confused me and I was still trying to figure out my role...

[Memnon]

Read post #215, it's my bad.

[DaveShack]

My n3 target was edse. Still no information that really helps.

Vote: Chaotix

[Chaotix]

Unvote, Vote: robbiecon

Don't really want to die just yet.

Anyway, you want my role, you've got it: I am the Role Scanner. I had hoped to reveal with a full list of players and their roles to bedazzle all of you, but you'll have to make do with what I've got so far.

Tell me if you want it or not. Once it's out, the mafia can use it to their advantage.

[edse]

Memnon did you target two more players last night?
Also we really need you to scan robbie and send his role to someone you trust...

BTW edse, you should really stop wasting your vote on the Oracle...
You confirmed he visited and that night I got JHT's role, and both John and Memnon confirmed this...



That was because recieving 2 result PMs the first night I succeeded, confused me and I was still trying to figure out my role...

Have you figured it out yet? Who did you target last night?

[Arjos]

Have you figured it out yet? Who did you target last night?

At the moment Chaotix and BSmith, but as I said unfortunately I could be both neighbour (recruits mafia aswell, without knowing) or mason (dies if recruiting mafia), so I can't be 100% certain of them...

[edse]

At the moment Chaotix and BSmith, but as I said unfortunately I could be both neighbour (recruits mafia aswell, without knowing) or mason (dies if recruiting mafia), so I can't be 100% certain of them...

What? Did you target 2 persons?

[Arjos]

Nope, BSmith last night and Chaotix the one before...

[edse]

BTW edse, you should really stop wasting your vote on the Oracle...
You confirmed he visited and that night I got JHT's role, and both John and Memnon confirmed this...

Can you explain your vote on robbiecon a bit better then. You believe both mine and Memnon's story about night 2 so why do you doubt that robbiecon is telling the truth?

[Arjos]

why do you doubt that robbiecon is telling the truth?

Because we had both Dave and Chaotix vote Ishmael and I'm afriad robbie could be sending out innocents name at random (if he's mafia, he knows exactly who is clear), gaining general trust and maybe putting his partner's name in the list...
On the other hand Chaotix, could've been feeding me lies, but Zack's claim is clear (even though he posted two possibilities before the scan, so it's a bit flimsy) and he also scanned me as a mason...

I don't think they are partners (Chaotix and robbie), so as I said worst case with robbie, we clear three names (right now I believe Memnon's story, you could be the mafia that gets messages for all I know), but if robbie is mafia, we still have a role-scanner, instead of a monkey (which is random)...

Day is long and I could really vote for any of the two...

Though thinking about it, Chaotix's reveal tells me that BSmith is town and that I can recruit only innocents: so maybe in the end it's the same story...

[edse]

Because we had both Dave and Chaotix vote Ishmael and I'm afriad robbie could be sending out innocents name at random (if he's mafia, he knows exactly who is clear), gaining general trust and maybe putting his partner's name in the list...
On the other hand Chaotix, could've been feeding me lies, but Zack's claim is clear (even though he posted two possibilities before the scan, so it's a bit flimsy) and he also scanned me as a mason...

I don't think they are partners (Chaotix and robbie), so as I said worst case with robbie, we clear three names (right now I believe Memnon's story, you could be the mafia that gets messages for all I know), but if robbie is mafia, we still have a role-scanner, instead of a monkey (which is random)...

Day is long and I could really vote for any of the two...

Though thinking about it, Chaotix's reveal tells me that BSmith is town and that I can recruit only innocents: so maybe in the end it's the same story...

Memnon could very well have been lynched if robbiecon hadn't said that he was innocent, leading to suspicions towards me if Memnon turned out to be innocent. So you can regard robbiecon as cleared if you think Memnon is innocent, then DaveShack and me as well. Chaotix is a scanner and Zaccino and BSmith are cleared by him. That leaves only one candidate Unvote: Vote Arjos

[Arjos]

Chaotix is a scanner ... and BSmith are cleared by him.

How since he never scanned him once?

Edit: not to mention, what mafia role creates QTs (beside role-stealer, but no recruiter was killed so far) and can invite people in it? Why are you making that stuff up? Why don't you want to lynch robbie?

[edse]

Though thinking about it, Chaotix's reveal tells me that BSmith is town and that I can recruit only innocents: so maybe in the end it's the same story...

How since he never scanned him once?

Did I misunderstand you?

Edit: not to mention, what mafia role creates QTs (beside role-stealer, but no recruiter was killed so far) and can invite people in it? Why are you making that stuff up? Why don't you want to lynch robbie?

I want him lynched but I think Memnon is the better option. I more unsure of your reasoning and that's why I ask you this.

[Arjos]

Did I misunderstand you?

Yes, you did, Chaotix scanned me and found out I'm a mason recruiter (which means, if I recruit mafia I die), then he scanned Zack as a commuter; while I recruited BSmith...
Now I don't fully trust Chaotix, but if he's lynched and turns out to be a role-scanner as he claims: me, BSmith and Zack are confirmed innocents...

If robbie is lynched and turns out to be a monkey: you, Memnon (who I already cleared) and DaveShack are confirmed innocents...

Either of the two is a fine lynch by me, atm I know more about Chaotix, that's why I'm voting robbie; plus the latter has been around for a while since his claim, and to me it's weird the mafia is leaving him alive to clear more and more people (if that's really the case)...

Bottom line: this day or the next one, by lynching any of the two we will get a mafia and clear a LOT of players; any other vote is wasted...