In RTW it was absurdly easy to kill routing soldiers. A quick swipe with a cav unit and that was it. Was a big change compared to old MTW.
In RTW it was absurdly easy to kill routing soldiers. A quick swipe with a cav unit and that was it. Was a big change compared to old MTW.
Newest rally point has 2 screens in it:
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So pretty. I tried to take screenshots from the video and put them up so you won't have to sit through two silly men BSing, but couldn't. Actually, having seen that video, I'm slightly worried they've just put things in just for OMGawesome value that seems to do it for the majority of the .com forum demographic.
maybe those guys should be doing something more useful...
Screens look pretty impressive. As long as it isn't complete garbage like the first Rome was, I'll be happy
A nice making-of-music video:
Our very own @Jack Lusted being interviewed for a podcast.
Dear me, I do not like what he suggests about the Egyptness of the Ptolemies. While certainly there should be some native troops and natives in hellenistic troops, but it seems to suggest that there will be some ancient anochronistic egyptian elements as well that are merely there to 'spice' up the game. As if simple native troops, elephants, Galatians, nubians and Ethiopians wouldn't be able to spice the roster up, if it would even need that.
And I was so happy seeing rather accurate Iberians.
Yeah, that sounds not good. I wonder what kind of units they have in mind to fight against other factions accurately researched forces. Again something inspired by "The Mummy" movies or maybe something accurate from the New Kingdom era?
I can't understand why they believe that fake or time traveling Egyptians will add anything to the game. In no other Total War game they added ahistorical nonsense units just because they are "iconic". Empire did not have Conquistador like 16th century Spaniards and Napoleon no late 19th century Prussians wearing the Pickelhaube. Why not simply make a Bronze Age Total War next if Bronze Age Egyptians are that important for success?
Also the promised a mix between historic Ptolemaic Egyptian units as well as the more "fanciful" types before. I hope it will not end as last time.
I hope he simply meant more egyptian culture (having the Ptolemaioi not a clone faction of say Makedonia), coupled with quite some Machimoi, Aithiopikoi and Noubaioi :)
Simply because that's how the vast majority of people not particularly well versed on history will think about Ancient Egypt. We're part of a very small minority that thinks historical accuracy leads to more fun and educational gains. Meanwhile the vast majority of people have a concept of ancient egypt as shown by Hollywood, so they will expect that when playing Egypt, they can actually play as the Egypt they know, not another Greek clone. And since they expect that, at least from a business prespective, that's what they get, as it will make them more satisfied with the game. We're lucky as it is that the game already has Parthia in it to make the "OMG, PERSIANS/ARABS" nation, otherwise I'm pretty sure that the Seleucids would also be fielding imortals and bedouin camel riders by the thousands. And we're equally lucky that since there are no preconceptions in regards to Carthage to go by (The only remote thing most people know about Carthage is some general guy called Hannibal and possibly that Rome fought against Carthage), so CA could make them a bit more realistic.
They are not trying to educate anyone on history, they are making a game for fun based on the (mis)conceptions that the Western society at large has on those classical times. Filthy unwashed barbarians (Most of them clones to each other), Proto-historical Egyptians, normal tone americanized voices for the Romans whereas silly english accents for all other cultures, etc, etc.
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BLARGH!
You know that the Ptolemaic Egyptians employed a fair number of Gauls in their army don’t you?
They used them as their shock troops. They imported a bout 4000 for starters and formed a Gaulic colony intermarrying with the natives. In later years the composed well over half of the Egyptian Army.
I don’t know that is something he is talking about but it is something different.
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they are the galatians moros mentioned.
We do not sow.
Wow, beautiful! Been away from the TW scene for a while, after the first Rome and EB. Then I bought Empire at low price recently, but was somewhat annoyed by the easy exploits coming from infinite artillery ammo.
But I'm really looking forward to Rome2, Rome is always my favorite historical scenario. Will be interesting to see how much they choose to be inspired by the amazing EB, and go for a more non-roman centric history based representation of the barbarian factions. Above all, I hope the same rich variety between barbarian factions featured in EB will be present in Rome2. If not, I thoroughly hope the engine will allow the EB heroes to do their great work.
New pics:
Beside the first, which although has nice skins, all it gives me is: that's not how you use it :P And the elephants look rather indian to me...
I really like the Hastati (I think they are) in the third one, look really accurate and I wonder how the fortifications will work in building them or if they will just spawn in sieges...
Also the fire looks pretty authentic ^^
Last edited by Lemur; 03-15-2013 at 15:09. Reason: Hotlinked images.
Didn’t you know that the big elephants of ancient times were the Asian Elephants?
The elephants used mostly in Carthage and Egypt were smaller forest elephants of a type that are now extinct. They only stood about 8 feet tall but there are still accounts of them carrying towers on their backs.
The large Syrian Elephants are also extinct now. They were said to stand as much as 15 feet at the shoulder and were as large or larger than the biggest African Bush Elephants.
It is thought that a couple of these big elephants were in the ones Hannibal brought across the Alps. They were very prized as war elephants, larger than the ones remaining in India and the far east today.
Education: that which reveals to the wise,
and conceals from the stupid,
the vast limits of their knowledge.
Mark Twain
That's Carthage in 148 BC, as you said there should be forest elephants instead (if at all!)...
Good point for the Syrian imports though (it's even possible that they were indian elephants, brought there or raised in Syria), but as a very small minority in a carthaginian army...
Still I wouldn't like to see all elephants in the game being indian...
Especially the body paint, doesn't look like a lybian or phoenician motive...
Last edited by Arjos; 08-15-2012 at 17:28.
I love the ramshackle look of the siege towers. Those things were not built to last after all.
"Après moi le déluge"
hhmmm...they are pretty, but there are some worrying historical inaccuracies. Am I wrong, or are they portraying the falcata as being of far lower quality steel than the Roman swords. I thought that the Romans were pretty amazed when they found out how high quality the Spanish falcatas were. They were also typically ornamented too I had read. Why does the one in that first pic look like it is made of some pretty crappy metal by a mediocre smith? Am I just reading too much into that?
Honestly, I really don't care how many screens they put out. I just wanna see a video. Don't get me wrong, I would rather they didn't rush the game, but that is the media I am dying to see.
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Well at the start of the 3rd Punic war the Carthaginians handed over all their main war gear & had to quickly manufacture new gear when the Romans demanded such extreme peace terms, so it may be legit in that context.
Also that may just be either a 'militia' quality blade (better weapons from upgraded weaponsmiths) or simply covered in blood/damaged from the battle.
maybe those guys should be doing something more useful...
Afaik ornamentations were on the scabbard and handle, not on the blade. And as hoom said it was something typical of the noble classes...
Those in the picture look like a rather regular mercenary band of Caetrati...
Last edited by Lemur; 03-15-2013 at 15:09. Reason: Quoting hotlinked images.
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