The March of Time - A Stainless Steel 6.4 hotseat

[Nightbringer]

Well, poland may be going down, but it still has teeth. Kassa captured by it.

As for myself, Genoa, Milan, Pisa, Bari, Brugge, Antwerp, and Staufen (or whatever its called, north of Berne) captured. Although I'm sure a number of them will be taken back.

Lithuania up @Nigel
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...d=279&id=10253

[RexLegend]

Good, Poland will be gone by the end of sly's turn.

[phonicsmonkey]

Bump @Nigel

[Nigel]

Hi Guys,

I will need an extension for another day.
Should be able to upload the next savegame tomorrow evening. Hope that will be ok.

[Nightbringer]

Good, Poland will be gone by the end of sly's turn.

I wouldn't be too sure about that, I don't think he is able to retake it on his turn.

[slysnake]

I wouldn't be too sure about that, I don't think he is able to retake it on his turn.

.... I second that! (me the pessimist )

[Nightbringer]

Gah, hit the edit button on your post by accident sly, didn't change anything though, I promise!

In any case, we'll see. you are certainly putting on some good pressure against the Moors in the Alps.

[Nigel]

Sorry to keep everyone waiting.
This is not even a very complicated turn for me - I just got lots of stuff ongoing in RL at the moment.
Will definitely be able to upload the savegame later this evening in a couple of hours.

.... hmmm, Moors in the Alps. Are you trying to follow in Hannibal's footsteps?


Edit:

Here it is, finally. @Mithridate

MoT-17-Kiev.zip

[Nightbringer]

.... hmmm, Moors in the Alps. Are you trying to follow in Hannibal's footsteps?

Nah, the invasion is coming by sea, there is just a nice fort war happening in the Alps over its castles.

[RexLegend]

Nah, the invasion is coming by sea, there is just a nice fort war happening in the Alps over its castles.

Just keep your fleets in Southern Seas and leave Northern Seas for me, ok ?

[Mithridate]

Surprised you had a treb in range Phonics, thought i checked the woods thuroughly and that youd not have enough +movements... may i ask where it was located?

Constantinople retaken, two fatmid forts gone ( u still have the ones close to the river near caesara )
Mostly a standstill atm, we shall see next turn!

@slysnake

[phonicsmonkey]

Surprised you had a treb in range Phonics, thought i checked the woods thuroughly and that youd not have enough +movements... may i ask where

In range of which city?

[Mithridate]

U killed one of my forted stacks north of caesara.

[phonicsmonkey]

U killed one of my forted stacks north of caesara.

You didn't check the woods thoroughly enough

[RexLegend]

Damn... @slysnake, forgot to tell you that you have turn to do.

[slysnake]

Will have turn up by tonight, sorry for the delay guys. It's amazing how quickly work can build up, even over the summer! |

EDIT: Sicily: http://www.sendspace.com/file/kc8625 (either me or @RexLegend will play this)

[Nigel]

@slysnake or @RexLegend, is one of you going to play Scily?
Or should we skip this turn?

[slysnake]

@slysnake or @RexLegend, is one of you going to play Scily?
Or should we skip this turn?

Should have it up in the next 24 hours or so, some big battles to fight I think...

EDIT: Scandinavia, @RexLegend! http://www.sendspace.com/file/m4yims

[RexLegend]

I thought I'd mention that Poland has fallen as expected. One bugger less.
Fatimids lost fort, located west of Adrianople. And took a look on my turn, it looks like it's going to be very long one.

EDIT:
Sorry for delay guys. As I said before, this turn was going to be long one.
Fatimids @phonicsmonkey
Nottingham, Caen and London have fallen. Remains of England are fleeing to Ireland, hoping to put some resistance there.
Bruges, Antwerp, Cologne retaken, Metz sacked and seized. Had top-notch spies inside for a while, had no forces to sack it for quite a while (just clarifying, if NB wants to know). Two forts of Moors are behind lines, we'll see which way they are going to flee. :)

[phonicsmonkey]

@slysnake, @RexLegend I would usually turn a faction to AI after three turns without a human player. It seems like you are just using Sicily as an extension of yourselves which I don't believe is particularly fair.

Along the same lines I could have subbed the Kwaz indefinitely after silvershield left and used them to crush everyone and win the game for my own faction.

So, I'm switching Sicily to AI and I genuinely think this is the fair thing to do - but I'll of course hear your counterarguments if you have any, and anyone else please feel free to express an opinion.

[Nightbringer]

Switching sicily to the ai certainly makes sense to me at this point, and if there are no objects I will do so on my next turn.

[slysnake]

I don't mind it being switched to AI, the only reason Rex and I started to play it was because it had not been turned to AI in what could have been (and was) a very fruitful turn for Sicily. I do admit it is a bit unfair, so go ahead and turn it AI

Talking about Kwaz, does that mean that the same rules that apply for interacting with it now also apply for Sicily?

[phonicsmonkey]

I don't mind it being switched to AI, the only reason Rex and I started to play it was because it had not been turned to AI in what could have been (and was) a very fruitful turn for Sicily. I do admit it is a bit unfair, so go ahead and turn it AI

Talking about Kwaz, does that mean that the same rules that apply for interacting with it now also apply for Sicily?

Usually an AI faction would be fair game for everyone else. I made special rules for the Kwaz because they were huge, I was uniquely placed to benefit and I thought it unfair. I think there are several factions who could take out Sicily so I'm inclined not to apply the same rules, but let me know if you disagree.

@Rougeman, Cumans are up

@Nightbringer, I already switched Sicily so no need for you to intervene.

[slysnake]

Usually an AI faction would be fair game for everyone else. I made special rules for the Kwaz because they were huge, I was uniquely placed to benefit and I thought it unfair. I think there are several factions who could take out Sicily so I'm inclined not to apply the same rules, but let me know if you disagree.

@Rougeman, Cumans are up

@Nightbringer, I already switched Sicily so no need for you to intervene.

No, I'm fine with that. It's just that I would have felt bad attacking Sicily's settlements so soon after Myth retired from the game aha

[Nigel]

I totally agree with switching factions of inactive or retired players to AI.

In this particular case it seems somewhat similar to what NB did with Poland - using the armies of an inactive faction to his advantage. Mind you that his move would have made sense for Poland anyway, since they were at war with Sicily, too.

All I am saying is that both had one turn of making use of an inactive/retired faction - so it seems all fair to me.
But yes, good time to switch them to AI now.

[phonicsmonkey]

I totally agree with switching factions of inactive or retired players to AI.

In this particular case it seems somewhat similar to what NB did with Poland - using the armies of an inactive faction to his advantage. Mind you that his move would have made sense for Poland anyway, since they were at war with Sicily, too.

All I am saying is that both had one turn of making use of an inactive/retired faction - so it seems all fair to me.
But yes, good time to switch them to AI now.

Good point Nigel - however with Poland I think we weren't sure if the player was coming back or not...that's usually why I wait three turns in the absence of other information.

[Nigel]

@Rougeman

gentle reminder, that your turn is due....


Edit:
One day later, I tried to download the savegame for the Cumans to skip turn.
It seems the zip-file is not downloading correctly.

@phonicsmonkey, could you upload it again?
Or even better: skip Cumans and upload the next one in line?

[phonicsmonkey]

Sure, when i get home later

[phonicsmonkey]

All, I'm very sorry to say that, due to admitted and extensive rule breaking in other hotseats, slysnake will not be continuing in this game.

I have asked a neutral party to investigate this game to see if there has been any rule breaking here and whether anyone has been disadvantaged. I'll report back on that.

In the meantime, Swabia will be turned AI.

[Mithridate]

Could not Mith take over?
We need Swabia bad!