Deconstructing the white european majority.

[Husar]

YOU'VE BEEN TROLLED BY HORETORE!


And the really sad part is that some of you still didn't get it several posts after he explained it...


I have to say that I didn't think of the scientific meaning at first either, even though I've heard it before.

And just to make that clear again, deconstruct in this context means to take it apart and then study the bits, not to destroy it or to make it less significant than it is today. It's a call for more detailed research. No reverse racism or self-hatred involved.
Whether a scientist should not usehis scientific language because some troll might quote him out of context to rile people up who will still be riled up because they're unable and unwilling to admit to being fooled after the troll explained them what he did there, is another question (and also somewhat laughable).

[Hax]

Can we perhaps interpret "deconstruct" within the context of dispelling myths, preconceptions and tropes that apply to the "white European majority"? As someone of mixed birth I see culture not necessarily as inherited from the parents, but something that is largely formed by the social constructs with which a person is surrounded. Of course, family is a large aspect of this, but I think that education and extra-curricular activity play a much larger role in shaping a person as he is. To what the degree the government should support this I'm not sure. I think a large problem stems from the fact that foreigners are being treated differently, which will probably not lead to them ever feeling included.

[Fragony]

YOU'VE BEEN TROLLED BY HORETORE!


And the really sad part is that some of you still didn't get it several posts after he explained it...


I have to say that I didn't think of the scientific meaning at first either, even though I've heard it before.

And just to make that clear again, deconstruct in this context means to take it apart and then study the bits, not to destroy it or to make it less significant than it is today. It's a call for more detailed research. No reverse racism or self-hatred involved.
Whether a scientist should not usehis scientific language because some troll might quote him out of context to rile people up who will still be riled up because they're unable and unwilling to admit to being fooled after the troll explained them what he did there, is another question (and also somewhat laughable).

I know he didn't mean destruction. But what he does is just as bad. He is a multiculturalist.

[Sir Moody]

I know he didn't mean destruction. But what he does is just as bad. He is a multiculturalist.

no just the opposite actually - he is criticising the way we go about Multiculturalism - he is pointing out we know more about the different minority groups and their problems than the groups which make up the Majority

He is advocating studying the groups which make up the Majority and identifying the problems they suffer rather than only looking at them as one big group

I would have thought this would match your world view since you advocate spending more time dealing with the "Natives" problems than the immigrants...

[Fragony]

no just the opposite actually - he is criticising the way we go about Multiculturalism - he is pointing out we know more about the different minority groups and their problems than the groups which make up the Majority

He is advocating studying the groups which make up the Majority and identifying the problems they suffer rather than only looking at them as one big group

I would have thought this would match your world view since you advocate spending more time dealing with the "Natives" problems than the immigrants...

He is critisizing it to move it forward, not to crush the idea itself. Which has to be done.

A wise man called Gelatinious Cube once nailed it: ' I think the answer to racism and issues of equality are simple: just treat everyone the same'

I think it was on page 2

there, so simple. I am not a lab-rat for crazy professors

'I would have thought this would match your world view since you advocate spending more time dealing with the "Natives" problems than the immigrants'

Explaine myself, your turn, what teh que do you mean?

[a completely inoffensive name]

You can't kill racism/prejudice. It's an emerging problem prompted by a lack of resources in a world where responsibility/guilt is disseminated along the entire division of labor.

[Montmorency]

You can't kill racism/prejudice.

Who said it?

It's an emerging problem prompted by a lack of resources in a world where responsibility/guilt is disseminated along the entire division of labor.

Resources? Responsibility? Guilt? Division of labor? Have you been hearing "social structure" get tossed around too often in Uni?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Who said it?
Resources? Responsibility? Guilt? Division of labor? Have you been hearing "social structure" get tossed around too often in Uni?

Sorry, was copy pasta a friend's status thing from facebook. I thought I could understand by posting it here and having people pick it apart.

Now I know my friends are weak minded.

[Sir Moody]

He is critisizing it to move it forward, not to crush the idea itself. Which has to be done.

A wise man called Gelatinious Cube once nailed it: ' I think the answer to racism and issues of equality are simple: just treat everyone the same'

I think it was on page 2

there, so simple. I am not a lab-rat for crazy professors

'I would have thought this would match your world view since you advocate spending more time dealing with the "Natives" problems than the immigrants'

Explaine myself, your turn, what teh que do you mean?

of course Equality is the goal - but not everyone is the same or suffers the same problems - take 3 different groups (and I apologise for the Marketing groups I am about to use), the Blue Collar Roots, the Educated urbanites and Inner city adversity.

The Blue Collar represents the skilled long time workers - think Mechanics, Factory workers etc

The Educated Urbanites are the young well educated affluent professionals - think Bankers, IT workers etc

The Inner City Adversity represents the "Slum" occupants - generally immigrants.

What the professor is saying is we have spent a lot of time identifying the problems faced by the Inner City Adversity - but we spend no time looking at the other 2 groups and instead lump them together, what we should be doing is spending as much time looking at ALL the groups equally to asses what problems each group faces and how we can fix it - not just focus on some groups

[Fragony]

of course Equality is the goal - but not everyone is the same or suffers the same problems - take 3 different groups (and I apologise for the Marketing groups I am about to use), the Blue Collar Roots, the Educated urbanites and Inner city adversity.

The Blue Collar represents the skilled long time workers - think Mechanics, Factory workers etc

The Educated Urbanites are the young well educated affluent professionals - think Bankers, IT workers etc

The Inner City Adversity represents the "Slum" occupants - generally immigrants.

What the professor is saying is we have spent a lot of time identifying the problems faced by the Inner City Adversity - but we spend no time looking at the other 2 groups and instead lump them together, what we should be doing is spending as much time looking at ALL the groups equally to asses what problems each group faces and how we can fix it - not just focus on some groups

You don't understand, there is no common dominator that is making multiculture succeed for me. Everyone can live here I don't care, but multiculturalism is a very dangerous brand of social-engineering, a top-down aproach to multi-ethnism. Nice to consider all groups but if in the end the result has to be a hundred you will always have alter the numbers.

[jirisys]

You don't understand, there is no common dominator that is making multiculture succeed for me. Everyone can live here I don't care, but multiculturalism is a very dangerous brand of social-engineering, a top-down aproach to multi-ethnism. Nice to consider all groups but if in the end the result has to be a hundred you will always have alter the numbers.

What?

~Jirisys ()

[ajaxfetish]

You don't understand, there is no common dominator that is making multiculture succeed for me. Everyone can live here I don't care, but multiculturalism is a very dangerous brand of social-engineering, a top-down aproach to multi-ethnism. Nice to consider all groups but if in the end the result has to be a hundred you will always have alter the numbers.

Or, you know, you could stop talking about multiculture and start discussing issues relevant to the topic at hand.

Ajax

[HoreTore]

YOU'VE BEEN TROLLED BY HORETORE!


And the really sad part is that some of you still didn't get it several posts after he explained it...


I have to say that I didn't think of the scientific meaning at first either, even though I've heard it before.

And just to make that clear again, deconstruct in this context means to take it apart and then study the bits, not to destroy it or to make it less significant than it is today. It's a call for more detailed research. No reverse racism or self-hatred involved.
Whether a scientist should not usehis scientific language because some troll might quote him out of context to rile people up who will still be riled up because they're unable and unwilling to admit to being fooled after the troll explained them what he did there, is another question (and also somewhat laughable).

Point number one was to have a laugh.

The second, more serious point, is that these kind of things are what makes up the "facts" of the far-right idiots, like the BNP, Geert, etc. This is the kind of stuoidity they base their paranoia on.

The exact quote I used has been used before, by Fjordman among many others. The last time I know it was used, was by ABB in the trial. I just loved Hylland Eriksen's reply to that use; "well, you can't expect much better, he is uneducated after all..."

There might be some differences between the intelligence level of Eurabia and Holocaust denial, but I can't see it. Both "theories" represent thedeath of intelligent thought; very few things can be called dumber.

[Fragony]

There might be some differences between the intelligence level of Eurabia and Holocaust denial.

Since when are you so generous

[Furunculus]

Point number one was to have a laugh.
The second, more serious point, is that these kind of things are what makes up the "facts" of the far-right idiots, like the BNP, Geert, etc. This is the kind of stuoidity they base their paranoia on.

i'm not sure i recognise much of a direct parallel between the likes of the extreme right like the BNP and populist right like Geert.

[Beskar]

Geert is more reactionary popularist right, rather like the stereotypical Daily Mail reader. He is more a rabble-rouser, provoking attacks against things which threaten people, thus drawing upon the protective and defensive nature of a population. If there is no perceived threat, he would lose political support.

BNP are the extreme right which inhabits loonyville, they systematically march on in spite of reality.

[SoFarSoGood]

Reality is what you make it.

[HoreTore]

i'm not sure i recognise much of a direct parallel between the likes of the extreme right like the BNP and populist right like Geert.

They both subscribe to the nutty Eurabia theory, which is the subject of this thread.

[Fragony]

Not so nutty

[Tellos Athenaios]

Oh I don't know, Fragony. I'd say Papewaio was right and we should turn it into a food thread. Deconstructed fruitcakes would go well with some nuts...

[Fragony]

If you bring the oil I'll rub you up