Reality is what you make it.
Re: Deconstructing the white european majority.
Reality is what you make it.
Re: Deconstructing the white european majority.
They both subscribe to the nutty Eurabia theory, which is the subject of this thread.Originally Posted by Furunculus
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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Not so nutty
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Oh I don't know, Fragony. I'd say Papewaio was right and we should turn it into a food thread. Deconstructed fruitcakes would go well with some nuts...
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If you bring the oil I'll rub you up
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I deconstructed a lasagna with my mouth and a fork just last night. Very enlightening.
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I get you, absolutely unthinkable that in an oil crisis arab states want something in return for a steady supply. It's just too much to even consider it.
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Not to mention that the large amount of social establishments that call themselves "true chinese" contain many insipid and irrational nuts. And, with the large amount of chickens that are abundant; overthrowing those nuts seems like an impossible task, the stagnation is obvious. Even more as now rice is scarce and cannot even pretend that this added bonus would stabilize the system without requesting additional relief eforts that would have to be paid in hard money. Why? Because the socialité is too busy with imposing small rations in order to further their own agendas, which hurt the pocket of the regular people who have to shell out money on things they should not need to.
Really bad Chinese restaurant, don't recommend it.
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Mockery is boring because it's so very very normal, way too normal to be clever
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Race is a complete social construct.
Once we let the Irish in, we knew we were just moving the goalposts
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What are you talking about?I get you, absolutely unthinkable that in an oil crisis arab states want something in return for a steady supply. It's just too much to even consider it.
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A deal that was struck between what was then the EU and the oil states during the oil crisis in the seventies, boils down to oil for immigration from islamic countries
I'll let Pam (rip) explain
http://www.meervrijheid.nl/?pagina=1391
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Don't tell me you actually believe that Eurabia horsecrap? The "document" you linked to contains no sources apart from Bat Ye'or's Eurabia book, which has long been debunked as being unadultered nonsense. It's warmongering and propaganda under the guise of academia that more often than not is unable to come up with any kind of evidence.
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Oh yes I absolutely believe that, and no it has not be debunked it has been lolololo'ld but that's normal
Sources are in that book by the way, as she said. This is a collumn. Go to the library and read the book.
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I'll do that when you pick up Edward Said.
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What makes you think I haven't, he wrote the prologue of Gilles Kepel's 'jihad, the trail of political islam' by the way
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Orientalism? Out of Place? Covering Islam?
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Edward Said's realm is the opinion of the west on the arab world, it has little to do with the arab influence in the west. It are completely different subjects.
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Would you agree with this sentiment?
Sound reasonable Fragony?Another problem is that of the muslims in our midst. We are being very indulgent to them. There is good reason to think that in some cases our indulgence is being abused. From facts within my own knowledge, I believe that many terrorists came here as immigrants. Many of these immigrants are muslims. They should be careful not to arouse the same resentment here as they have stirred up in so many countries.
I dislike racism as much as anyone, but it is a fact that the muslims are getting a stranglehold on European life out of all proportion to their avowed numbers. Many of the European muslims, often themselves recent immigrants from the Middle East, were the worst of their kind. In Europe, muslims formed a self-interested community, and the misdeeds of some bring down reprisals on the rest.
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On it own it looks reasonable but is phrased in a way that it could apply to almost any immigrant group.
Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
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Sounds ok to me, where's the trap
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Ah yes...
One of the EU's numberless chit-chat clubs is blown out of proportion and given actual power and influence. Like the Illuminati before them, it's also been given extended life(EAD was shut down in 79, frags).
We all know how much politicians love giving up power. That's why european politicians gave up all power back in the seventies to a powerless foreign power. The "euro elites" decided that even though they are superior in organization, in military, in economics, in education, in technology, in everything, they were just going to hand power over to someone else.
That's Bat Ye'or for you, and that's the reason she belongs in an insane asylum. And puh-lease, her "sources" are nothing but circle-logic and/or irrelevant to the point she's making.
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Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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In short, you simply know, for a fact, that it simply isn't true
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No.
This thread has demonstrated that this is the way you form your opinions, not me. You were the one who jumped to a conclusion without knowing anything about what was being said, because you "already know the truth".
I have read the Eurabia arguments. I have also checked their claims. Thus, I know it's rubbish. It has no more merit than any other whacko conspiracy theory has. It belongs in the same category as Loose Change, the Protocols, fake moon landings and other such complete nonsense.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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So if I get this right you know, for a fact, that it simply isn't true
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Yes, I know for a fact that the Eurabia nonsense isn't true.
Just like I know that we did land on the moon, it wasn't filmed in a desert in California. And the Protocols were made by the Russian secret police, it has no basis in reality.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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What part?
If you look at it from the perspective of: "There is no Cobra Commander in a secret base somewhere who points his fingers and have Muslims follow..." Well then yeah, I agree with you. It's rubbish.
However, if 90% of the population get 1,5 kids, and 10% of the population get 4,5 kids, the 10% will be in majority after two generations.
I don't know how it is with you over there in Norway, but here in Sweden we have rather low birth rates among native Swedes. The Afghanis and Somalis, however, seem to have no problem procreating in our Nordic environment.
From this perspective, one could worry about sharia laws hitting us within 50 years.
I know saying that is tin-foil-hat-worthy for some... But then, those same people would have put tin foil hats on any Swede who 30 years ago said we in Sweden would have immigrant Ghettos totally secluded from society at large by 2010.
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double post.
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"Eurabia" is a conspiracy theory claiming that "euro elites" has sold us into dhimmitude by opening our borders to immigration, apparently in exchange for oil. That's about as truthful as the Protocols.
As for muslim population... Most(sane) statistics show that most european countries will have around 10% immigrants in 30 years, quite far from the doomsday predictions. As for birthrates, that only applies to the women who have just arrived inthe country, the birthrate drops dramatically with each year the immigrant stays inthe country. A second gen has abiut the same rate as a european. Also, the birthratw varies dramatically between countries of origin. Basically, theyimmigrate with the birth stat of their home country, then assimilate quickly to the birth stat of their new country.
Also, there is nothing to suggest tha once we hit the 50% immigrant mark, if we ever do, we'll get sharia. First of all, only about 50% of people from muslim countries in Norway are actually religious. Of that50%, only a minority supports hard sharia laws.
I think we'll be safe in the future too. Unless the right-wingers gain power, that is. That's the real threath.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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If the bold part is true, I should be absolutely horrified... We have more than 10% immigrants already...
Also, Norway don't specialize in accepting Somalis a.k.a. "Africa's answer to Gypsies" to the extent Sweden do.
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