Stainless Steel 6.4 Hotseat - Wrath of the Khan 2

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Almost forgot about this one, I'll have to get it up tomorrow afternoon.

[Thanatos Eclipse]

@slysnake
WotK2_Rome_T21.rar

[slysnake]

UK, @Rougeman! http://www.sendspace.com/file/0pqa5a

[Rougeman]

@SilverShield

[Myth]

The lead battles in SS are brutal. Trying to assault stone cities/forts is a pain since you're more likely to run out of ammo by the time you get to the second layer than anything. I've gotten a way to punch trough double stone walls but it requires a minimum of two siege units and even then it's a gamble.

The AI units are boosted very well. If you think it's hard now, try a SP game against the ERE. A couple of ERE generals and a couple of Scholarii can massacre a full stack in siege defence.

In fact I'm so happy with SS I can't wait for 7.0 to get released so we can have a grand ol' campaign on it.

edit: apparently I read an old post and I thought it was the most recent one, so i answered it haha

[phonicsmonkey]

The lead battles in SS are brutal. Trying to assault stone cities/forts is a pain since you're more likely to run out of ammo by the time you get to the second layer than anything. I've gotten a way to punch trough double stone walls but it requires a minimum of two siege units and even then it's a gamble.

The AI units are boosted very well. If you think it's hard now, try a SP game against the ERE. A couple of ERE generals and a couple of Scholarii can massacre a full stack in siege defence.

In fact I'm so happy with SS I can't wait for 7.0 to get released so we can have a grand ol' campaign on it.

edit: apparently I read an old post and I thought it was the most recent one, so i answered it haha

Yeah I've had to resort to auto-resolving fort battles unless I have several catapults or trebs.

I tried a SP campaign as Turkey on VH and got owned on the battlemap by the ERE. My arrows...useless!

[SilverShield]

just so anyone knows we aint on hold coz of me. that said is fair enough and all from me on this issue

[Nightbringer]

Hello everyone. It has been confirmed that cheating has occurred in this game, and I would like to ask everyone's opinion on whether we should still continue this game, or attempt to restart.

The cheating was done by slysnake, controlling the HRE. As such, he will be leaving the game.

The way I see it, we could try turning the HRE AI and continuing the game.

However, I think it can be agreed that a number of balance issues have been identified in this game to begin with, putting the Mongols at a huge disadvantage. As such, I would support a restart of the game with modified rules to correct this issue. I would propose permanently allying the Cumans and Khwarezmians to the Mongols.

So, what would you guys prefer? A restart, or continuing?

[phonicsmonkey]

Hello everyone. It has been confirmed that cheating has occurred in this game, and I would like to ask everyone's opinion on whether we should still continue this game, or attempt to restart.

The cheating was done by slysnake, controlling the HRE. As such, he will be leaving the game.

The way I see it, we could try turning the HRE AI and continuing the game.

However, I think it can be agreed that a number of balance issues have been identified in this game to begin with, putting the Mongols at a huge disadvantage. As such, I would support a restart of the game with modified rules to correct this issue. I would propose permanently allying the Cumans and Khwarezmians to the Mongols.

So, what would you guys prefer? A restart, or continuing?

I'd rather continue with the HRE turned to AI. If we restart I won't be able to commit to such a long new game.

[LooseCannon1]

Finish this one! I want to see the pagan infidel beheaded and the traitorous Muslims drawn and quartered!

[phonicsmonkey]

Finish this one! I want to see the pagan infidel beheaded and the traitorous Muslims drawn and quartered!

You won't live to see it!

[SilverShield]

im good either way. i personally think this game is over and the only chance there is for the mongols was if someone else wont stay with the team. tho if it was me whos the victim then and i sure i was im out then anyway. and just so anyone understands that it is less about the game but about principle for me. i have a utmost disgust for backstabbers and anything backstabbing. keeping ur fighting bros back is a core principle of my life whether it was in the field or whether its sports or life in general or just this computer game here. so i d just get angry over the backstabbing so i best leave once it happened. i rather have some moments of relaxation and fun when playing this

[SilverShield]

all good with Zim tho. what i said is my general opinion on treason. each and every situation is different so all good with Zim. its more that im really feeling pissed over slysnake that lil x and all the x he did. with some new info on this i now see it is even worse i ever thought it was. thats just insane. but yea right it is what it is now. its a strange situation but it is what it is. as i said im good either way as to whats best for us and wotk now. tho right now the chances of the mongols are pretty slim and i doubt chances were up once hre is computer. thats just the truth. its somewhat tragic it all went down the way it did but even if it wasnt for all what this lil x did we had some problems right away as the mongols are just too weak on their own. thats just how it is. but anyways im good either way. but we still 8 people here so someone else gotta give some feedback on which way was best. im good either way

[phonicsmonkey]

Just to let you guys know, the best proposal so far is from @Myth who suggested we take HRE back to their starting provinces and military level, giving the rest of their territories to the AI Papal States.

That would allow someone to take over HRE without benefiting from the cheating that has taken place.

@SilverShield, I think you can go ahead and play your turn on the basis that we'll work this one out as fairly as possible and we won't let a new player just take over the HRE and immediately attack you from a position of advantage.

[Visor]

What happened?

On and I vote for continuing. I've captured some land in this game.

Read: 3-4 settlements.

[phonicsmonkey]

What happened?

On and I vote for continuing. I've captured some land in this game.

Read: 3-4 settlements.

slysnake was hacking the game to give himself gold, armies and buildings and to move armies unlimited distances

[Nightbringer]

Alright, lets continue then! :)

[SilverShield]

hre computer and the papal stuff prolly is best for the situation in the east but thats a problem in the west then with the war against the moors if hre suddenly was out there. thats a big advantage for the moors then. man this x really broke anything. but alright anyways prolly still somewhat the only solution to this issue. and the advantage of hre over the moors was non legit anyway so its okay the moors situation will brighten up now. somewhat and in some way i can see the game having a second spring now


so give me some time on this its a whole new situation now. hre then will no longer be allied to me

[LooseCannon1]

Wait, what happened in the game? Did slysnake (HRE) attack SilverShield (Byzantium)? I understand the cheating but did he also betray us?

And if needed, after HRE is set back to normal (terms of land/money/units) I can play them.

[Myth]

slysnake did extensive cheating in WotK2 and was caught for it, he also cheated in CoG! and to a lesser extent in EotA. As such he will no longer be allowed to participate in these games nor in any other competitive hotseats in the TR.

He will also be banned from the TR but he seems to have left regardless.

[SilverShield]

im outta town still im up for this tomorrow

[SilverShield]

strange to imagine what the map will look like after this round when the pope took over some of those hre territories. but alright im ready for this. and we can just annihalate whats left of hre then. tho without the hre troops in the west and east i do think the situation is pretty tight then specially in the west. i can see the moors having a comeback there. and in the east its just me and kiev v the whole mongo horde of elite cav right now. it really is a whole new game now

moors up
http://depositfiles.com/files/m0o7icvlp

[SilverShield]

anyone? thats 6 days of nothing


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Sent 09-06-12 06:57 PM
Read 09-06-12 11:03 PM

[Nightbringer]

Alright, I will skip th eturn tonight if it is not done. @Mithridate

[Mithridate]

sorry overlooked this, busy days

a comeback is possible but unlikely, will be darn close xD
Should be up by tonight, i wont ask for an extension as im already vlate

[Mithridate]

There is no save file in the link @SilverShield

[SilverShield]

there was one u took too long to download ur save. and u gotta send me a pm if theres issues i dont check the forum on a daily basis to see whats up


alright heres a new one
http://depositfiles.com/files/ihqjzpkrm

[Mithridate]

Ok, playing now. Again, sorry all for the delays @Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

denmark up! @The Celtic Viking

[Visor]

@Nightbringer

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