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    They crushed those speeches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    They crushed those speeches.
    Oh, was the convention televised tonight? Or did you stream the coverage from somewhere? I have not been keeping up.

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    I enjoyed the Paul supporters having their delegates stripped by last minute rule changes and then being shouted down in the middle of the convention with chants of USA USA USA.

    Blind nationalism and party identity no matter how sketchy things look. I prefer the Christian God over the capitalist one (Romney).


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    Quote Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name View Post
    Blind nationalism and party identity no matter how sketchy things look.
    Romney's wife's speech was a beautiful example of this!

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    I prefer the Christian God over the capitalist one (Romney).
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    That was hilarious. Thank you.

    I love Mitt Romney, I think he is awesome and his wife did an excellent job last night. I hope that he wins and we are within striking distance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    I hope that he wins and we are within striking distance.
    eh striking distance of what??
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
    eh striking distance of what??
    Well, it is a close election. Things can go either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    I love Mitt Romney, I think he is awesome and his wife did an excellent job last night. I hope that he wins and we are within striking distance.
    Why?

    What policies of his benefit you? What policies benefit America as a whole?

    I'm sorry, but business as usual (as represented by the GOP) is not going to help the states this time around.

    Additionally, why did you enjoy his wife's speech? It was such a vapid attempt at pandering to women and the "common man", so incredibly contrived. Romney is not "in touch" with the the average American, and his policies will not help them. Romney said it best himself:

    “I have some great friends who are NASCAR team owners.”
    — When asked if he follows NASCAR (Feb. 26, 2012)

    and

    “I’m in this race because I care about Americans. I’m not concerned about the very poor — we have a safety net there.”
    — (Feb. 2, 2012)



    He's so against the poor he and his party had the Tampa police clear them all out of the city before they had their big bucks convention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Why?

    What policies of his benefit you? What policies benefit America as a whole?

    I'm sorry, but business as usual (as represented by the GOP) is not going to help the states this time around.

    Additionally, why did you enjoy his wife's speech? It was such a vapid attempt at pandering to women and the "common man", so incredibly contrived. Romney is not "in touch" with the the average American, and his policies will not help them. Romney said it best himself:
    “I have some great friends who are NASCAR team owners.”
    — When asked if he follows NASCAR (Feb. 26, 2012)

    and

    “I’m in this race because I care about Americans. I’m not concerned about the very poor — we have a safety net there.”
    — (Feb. 2, 2012)



    He's so against the poor he and his party had the Tampa police clear them all out of the city before they had their big bucks convention.

    Republicans were honest enough to admit that Obama's speeches were excellent. I've watched every one of these speeches from 6PM to 11 for the past 2 days. I've seen some excellent stuff (including a few duds). I know Romney's record. I like his results and his moderate governing philosophy. I like that he was capable of governing a Democratic state and governing it well, passing middle of the road and successful, lasting policies. I believe that it is time for an administration that is realistic and pragmatic and knows how to accomplish tough things with restraint. I also know that this government is hostile in a new way to individual liberty, business creation and reasonable consensus. I'm not going to say that Obama is the worst President because I don't believe that can be judged reasonably right now, but I don't believe that anyone can honestly say that he has his priorities in order or has been effective. He is governing like a popular junior Senator. Nothing that he proposes will help me or any of my issues along - to answer your question he does nothing for me. I want a Republican administration which will focus government on core responsibilities. I believe that this one will be different because of the individuals that will run it. I could be wrong. I thought Barack Obama could bring Americans together with his lofty and excellent speeches but I was wrong on that. I didn't vote for him, but I wasn't thrilled by any means by McCain

    Most political speeches are attempts to court certain voters and check the right boxes. I'm not sure you get off criticising a speech as "pandering", i'm not sure why you would give one if you weren't trying to tell a story and influence people. Anne Romney is a mother and wife of the nominee, not a politician. I didn't expect much from her having heard her speak before. I was impressed and I know that it was effective.

    Is it "the economy. stupid" or not? People will vote for Obama because of image, not results. I don't know anyone who is better off today than they were 4 years ago. That is a good place to be for the G.O.P. going into a November election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Why?

    What policies of his benefit you? What policies benefit America as a whole?

    I'm sorry, but business as usual (as represented by the GOP) is not going to help the states this time around.
    As if Obama's policies are doing any good...

    While I hate Romney's social conservative side, I have faith that he will substantially help the economy, which, IMO, is much more important than most social issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    They crushed those speeches.
    Did anyone claim a natural event as an act of god this time?
    #Hillary4prism

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