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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Very distasteful on Dawkins part. Romney's religion is of no business of Dawkins. I hate atheists who attack other religions as much as religions who attack other religions. Or lack of religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    Very distasteful on Dawkins part. Romney's religion is of no business of Dawkins. I hate atheists who attack other religions as much as religions who attack other religions. Or lack of religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    Very distasteful on Dawkins part. Romney's religion is of no business of Dawkins. I hate atheists who attack other religions as much as religions who attack other religions. Or lack of religion.
    Ah but don't worry. When Richard Dawkins dies, I'm sure Romney will get him baptized into the one true Mormon church. You know, just like they did with Romney's (atheist) father in law.

    When public figures use their religion to gain political office, I see no problem with people expressing their opinion about such religions and their followers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR View Post
    Ah but don't worry. When Richard Dawkins dies, I'm sure Romney will get him baptized into the one true Mormon church. You know, just like they did with Romney's (atheist) father in law.

    When public figures use their religion to gain political office, I see no problem with people expressing their opinion about such religions and their followers.
    mormonism doesnt help you into office in the US so your point is???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    mormonism doesnt help you into office in the US so your point is???
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Electio...he-person-I-am

    I'm convinced that my background, and my heritage and my faith have made me the person I am to a great degree
    What is his faith? And why mention faith at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR View Post
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Electio...he-person-I-am


    What is his faith? And why mention faith at all?
    mormonism is mor of a negative thing than a positive in the majority of americans minds accept it or not thats the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    mormonism is mor of a negative thing than a positive in the majority of americans minds accept it or not thats the fact.
    While I do not approve of the prejudice that protestants and catholics have against mormons, I don't like the way Romney or other prominent mormons have dealt with this.

    I would have hoped that being from a religion which is looked upon unfavourably would have inspired some humility and a healthy respect for religious indifference, i.e. let everyone believe what they will and keep it out of political discussions. I get the distinct impression however that some Mormons just want to be co-opted into the religious right, or at least be accepted by it, and are perfectly okay with its crusade against secularism and its hostility towards non-christian religions.

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    I take the religion of most every US politician as nothing more than platitudes. Some may believe what they say but for the most part I take it as cynical pandering to the more religious voters.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR View Post
    Ah but don't worry. When Richard Dawkins dies, I'm sure Romney will get him baptized into the one true Mormon church. You know, just like they did with Romney's (atheist) father in law.
    What his family did to their father in law after he died is a family matter and has no relevance to this conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    What his family did to their father in law after he died is a family matter and has no relevance to this conversation.
    Next time it will be Catholics and Jews...wait they have already done that. But if it does not matter if Romney is part of such a church, then so be it and we will just agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR View Post
    Next time it will be Catholics and Jews...wait they have already done that. But if it does not matter if Romney is part of such a church, then so be it and we will just agree to disagree.
    One might make the same argument about Obama- he regularly went to a church where the pastor went on vitriolic rants against the US, yet the left dismissed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    One might make the same argument about Obama- he regularly went to a church where the pastor went on vitriolic rants against the US, yet the left dismissed it.
    And he left the church. If was IMO a valid criticism and he took the consequence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR View Post
    And he left the church.
    After how long again?

    IIRC, it was only after the whole controversy came to light in 2008.
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