U.S. Ambassador and three others killed in Libya.

**Fragony** · 09-12-2012, 15:49

Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

Ok, see. When normal people are asked to elaborate, they don't add that what they said is true.

I am trying to make you understand why it's very VERY hard to take what you write seriously. You have some good, if uncomfortable, points at times, I grant you that. However, as long as you keep debating like a pre-schooler you will find that very few bother to listen to what you say, no matter if you are right or wrong.

Liberal enough I hope
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_837911.html

**Major Robert Dump** · 09-12-2012, 15:53

nevermind

**Kadagar_AV** · 09-12-2012, 15:55

Originally Posted by Fragony

Liberal enough I hope
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_837911.html

That is an article about french jets.

Very good, you now sourced.

Ok, so from that source, what is your point? Again, you haven't elaborated at all.

**Fragony** · 09-12-2012, 16:04

Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

That is an article about french jets.

Very good, you now sourced.

Ok, so from that source, what is your point? Again, you haven't elaborated at all.

It's pretty simple it's in there, France started bombing Libya without allies consent. They even admitted it.

**Kadagar_AV** · 09-12-2012, 16:08

Originally Posted by Fragony

It's pretty simple it's in there, France started bombing Libya without allies consent. They even admitted it.

How is that related to the topic, though? What is it that you are trying to say here?

**Fragony** · 09-12-2012, 16:12

Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

How is that related to the topic, though? What is it that you are trying to say here?

The exact same thing of which you said it was lunacy, that it was France that started the war with Libya.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 09-12-2012, 16:22

Originally Posted by Fragony

The exact same thing of which you said it was lunacy, that it was France that started the war with Libya.

They started "early", they didn't start without allies.

Military action is not an option, the militia is not government aligned and the US is not at war with Libya or its neighbours - the situation bears no resemblance to Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, or Pakistan.

If Obama bows to the screaming to "retaliation" on the Right he is a weak president who deserves to be thrown out.

**Fragony** · 09-12-2012, 16:41

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

They started "early", they didn't start without allies.

Military action is not an option, the militia is not government aligned and the US is not at war with Libya or its neighbours - the situation bears no resemblance to Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, or Pakistan.

If Obama bows to the screaming to "retaliation" on the Right he is a weak president who deserves to be thrown out.

Put it how you like it, but 40.000 people, probably 80.000, got killed in a timeset that would shame any campguard's pride

**Kadagar_AV** · 09-12-2012, 18:31

Originally Posted by Fragony

The exact same thing of which you said it was lunacy, that it was France that started the war with Libya.

The lunacy I referred to was directed to your years of participation.

I said that the US gov't just put the Libyan gov in place, and hence it would be weird if they attacked them. I didn't say the US started it, was alone in doing it, or anything such. That is why I wondered why you started posting articles about french jet fighters.

So what in my original point is it that you feel like arguing against?

AND PLEASE BE MORE ELABORATE WHEN YOU FIRST COME UP WITH THE IDEA TO POST.

That way I don't have to spend so many posts just trying to understand what the **** you are trying to get said.

**Fragony** · 09-12-2012, 19:14

Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

The lunacy I referred to was directed to your years of participation.

I said that the US gov't just put the Libyan gov in place, and hence it would be weird if they attacked them. I didn't say the US started it, was alone in doing it, or anything such. That is why I wondered why you started posting articles about french jet fighters.

So what in my original point is it that you feel like arguing against?

AND PLEASE BE MORE ELABORATE WHEN YOU FIRST COME UP WITH THE IDEA TO POST.

That way I don't have to spend so many posts just trying to understand what the **** you are trying to get said.

You would not believe me, isn't it enough that I allready proved that it wasn't the US that attacked Libya but France, as I said, which you thought was pretty rediculous