When is war justified or when it is simply imperialism

[HoreTore]

Taliban started out in Pakistan. The reason they we able to gain ground in Afghanistan is because they are a Pashto movement. About 40% of Afghanistan (a plurality) is Pashto. The Taliban treated minorities non-Pashto horribly, regardless of their religious affiliation. Northern Alliance was primarily non-Pashto, and thus represented the interests of the majority.

Oh really? I believe you are in over your head, dear sir.

Hekmatyar, Sayyat, Mojadeddi, Haq and Sherzai are all Pashto.

Mullah Omar started his movement, according to the tale, with 40 men outside Kandahar. They were joined in a few months by around 15.000 men educated in pakistani madrassas(thus the name), with mixed origins. 15.040 untrained hillbillys is quite a long way from what you need to subdue a hostile population containing several armies with over a decade of combat experience.

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Oh really? I believe you are in over your head, dear sir.

Hekmatyar, Sayyat, Mojadeddi, Haq and Sherzai are all Pashto.

That's four men. The alliance was quite bigger than that. You also conveniently overlooked its leader Masood, who was a Tajik, as well as Gen. Dostum who is an Uzbek.

Mullah Omar started his movement, according to the tale, with 40 men outside Kandahar. They were joined in a few months by around 15.000 men educated in pakistani madrassas(thus the name), with mixed origins. 15.040 untrained hillbillys is quite a long way from what you need to subdue a hostile population containing several armies with over a decade of combat experience.

15,040 Pashto hillbillies. Their ranks grew because they were Pashto.

[HoreTore]

That's four men. The alliance was quite bigger than that. You also conveniently overlooked its leader Masood, who was a Tajik, as well as Gen. Dostum who is an Uzbek.

15,040 Pashto hillbillies. Their ranks grew because they were Pashto.

Are you seriously suggesting that Taliban rose to power because of their ethnic affiliation...?

If so, I don't really see any point in arguing further with someone who spits in the face of established knowledge.

The five men I listed, btw, would all fit in the "top 10 most important warlords"-category*. Meaning that half of the top brass of the warlord period were pashto. If you want more names, I can gladly give you more: just state the appropriate number of names that will satisfy you, and I'll name them. There's a wealth of rabid loonies to choose from, it won't be much of a hassle....

And while Masood was one of the more generally liked warlords, Dostum was arguably the most hated one of the whole lot. You score zero points.

*well, at least four of them. I included Sherzai because he was the governor of Kandahar at the time Omar started out.

[Greyblades]

I think I'll be honest this time; I dont much care if war is well justified, as long as it doesnt make things worse in the long run.

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Are you seriously suggesting that Taliban rose to power because of their ethnic affiliation...?

Yes.

If so, I don't really see any point in arguing further with someone who spits in the face of established knowledge.

Established by whom? Can you enlighten me with your sources?

The five men I listed, btw, would all fit in the "top 10 most important warlords"-category*.

How many of them were in Northern Alliance? Certainly not Hekmatyar.

Meaning that half of the top brass of the warlord period were pashto. If you want more names, I can gladly give you more: just state the appropriate number of names that will satisfy you, and I'll name them. There's a wealth of rabid loonies to choose from, it won't be much of a hassle....

And?

And while Masood was one of the more generally liked warlords, Dostum was arguably the most hated one of the whole lot.

And?

You score zero points.

I didn't realize we were tallying points.