2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Strike For The South]

Horseshit

Some people are born on 3rd base thinking they hit a triple.

Panzer, I like you, I would love to share a beer with you, but sometimes I want to hug you very tightly, this is one of those times

[PanzerJaeger]

Horseshit

Some people are born on 3rd base thinking they hit a triple.

Panzer, I like you, I would love to share a beer with you, but sometimes I want to hug you very tightly, this is one of those times

Simply by virtue of being born in America, one starts on third base. I have little sympathy for people who can't make it to home, especially when people who truly begin life in dire straights manage to overcome incredible barriers to make it here and achieve success every day.

I will take that hug, though.

[Strike For The South]

Simply by virtue of being born in America, one starts on third base. I have little sympathy for people who can't make it to home, especially when people who truly begin life in dire straights manage to overcome incredible barriers to make it here and achieve success every day.

I will take that hug, though.

It's all relative.

As someone who went to (and will be continuing) school with the the MBA grads and as someone who worked with the supposed 99%. I can tell you, Americans are very similar.

[Lemur]

Crucial thing, PJ, is that it's fine for you, a private citizen, to have contempt for a majority of fellow citizens. Hell, it's fine for all of us. We can openly loathe our fellow Americans. No repercussions, except people might call us things like "jerk."

For a national political candidate to express contempt for approx half the nation? Very different.

-edit-

I had to check for confirmation on this one, since it sounded suspiciously Onion-like. Romney campaign posts and then removes video titled "Mitt Doesn't Disdain the Poor."

[Major Robert Dump]

If Romney wants to lash out at the welfare queens, then let him.

But as I have stated here and elsewhere, plenty of people in that 47% bracket are middle and upper middle class earners who use deductions and credits to bring their tax liability down to zero. In the case of self-employed and small business owners, someone who grosses middle and upper middle but also spends tens of thousnds on business expenses (re:putting money back in the economy) can effectively itemize themselves down to zero tax liability.

If Romney wants to get rid of credits like that, and get rid of mrtgage insurance deductions, and healthcare deductions and deductions for having kids, then more power to him. I would not be against that.

But Romney should not demonize me (as being against change) for using the same credits and deductions his manicured, pussy face uses. This is what upsets me about his statement. If he wants to lash out at the welfare queens, I believe his percetage would have been more around the 20-25% mark.

Or maybe I am just taking all this the wrong way. Moar anarchy plz

[Strike For The South]

I thought we were an autonomous collective :(

[Major Robert Dump]

Yes, the autonomous bailout saved Detroit, now give me my free "We are all overpaid union employees" t-shirt

[Sigurd]

But as I have stated here and elsewhere, plenty of people in that 47% bracket are middle and upper middle class earners who use deductions and credits to bring their tax liability down to zero.

Wasn't his message that any campaigning based on tax-cuts wouldn't appeal to these 47%? That's what I got out of the video.

[Fisherking]

I blame it all on Political Handlers.

I think that the Republican handlers are not nearly as good a their Democrat counterparts, for the most part.

Republican handlers should learn to keep their people on a shorter leash, like the Democrats do.

That way the public is spared more of those examples of foot-in-mouth disease.

[Major Robert Dump]

Wasn't his message that any campaigning based on tax-cuts wouldn't appeal to these 47%? That's what I got out of the video.

That's a bad message. He does not know that one way or the other. Some of the middle classers who itemize down their tax liabiity would surely enjoy more tax cuts as they will get a bigger refund using refundable credits. And some, like me, would probably care less one way or the other, but if the credit is there I am going to use it just like the rich pukes do. But to suggest that the aforementioned people are somehow wards of the state and therefore not interested in benefits for actaully doing work and contributing to the economy, well, that's just silly. For someone who is such a successful businessman, Romney's math sucks.