Pirate Ship Mafia II [Concluded]

[Zack]

Everyone takes themself of their list of scum, regardless of allegiance. And there be nothing particularly wrong with mutiny, there are a few things wrong with saying mutiny is a scum only action.

You don't think there's anything suspicious about colluding to mutiny against a clearly pro-town Captain, while simultaneously kissing the Captain's ass? What possible reason is there to mutiny against me at this point?

Meanwhile, why do you refuse to elaborate on night actions, and why are you paying people to protect you at night?

EDIT: Plus, there's also the factor that many of his strongest accusers (Chaotix, TinCow, Andres) all have good alibis.

[Visor]

You don't think there's anything suspicious about colluding to mutiny against a clearly pro-town Captain, while simultaneously kissing the Captain's ass?

I don't see it as a Spanish action. I see it as a townie who wants gold. Why the hell would the Spanish take such an action that could obviously backfire and be useless.

What possible reason is there to mutiny against me at this point?

Besides the fact that you may indeed be Spanish, gold is also a factor. There may also be roles better suited to captaincy then you.

Meanwhile, why do you refuse to elaborate on night actions, and why are you paying people to protect you at night? I'll reveal my night actions to people I trust. You are not one of those people. And heaven forbid I want to survive a game. That last question of yours is rather self explanatory.

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[Zack]

I don't see it as a Spanish action. I see it as a townie who wants gold. Why the hell would the Spanish take such an action that could obviously backfire and be useless.

Because I'm all but confirmed town? Isn't that obvious?

Besides the fact that you may indeed be Spanish, gold is also a factor. There may also be roles better suited to captaincy then you.

How could I possibly be Spanish? The lieutenants were recruiting, and the officer would be a fool to guard his gold rather than scan two people for conversion susceptibility. Plus, the Captain cannot be converted. And no townie in their right mind would risk replacing an assuredly town Captain with a possible scumbag/unknown.

I'll reveal my night actions to people I trust. You are not one of those people. And heaven forbid I want to survive a game. That last question of yours is rather self explanatory.

How can you trust anyone more than me at this point? Isn't gaining gold a significant goal in this game? Why would you give so much away as a safeguard when you're so unlikely to be attacked? Who would kill you at night right now? Further, dying as a vanilla townie isn't the end of the world or anything, either. It's not like you're a Horseman killing people, or an Officer performing important actions. As far as I know, you're not doing anything particularly productive at night.

[Visor]

Because I'm all but confirmed town? Isn't that obvious? You're not confirmed town. Just not Guardacosta. Which I'll admit, makes you highly likely to be town.


How could I possibly be Spanish? And no townie in their right mind would risk replacing an assuredly town Captain with a possible scumbag/unknown. See above. Of course if the other choice for captain is a power role, they would be a better choice.


How can you trust anyone more than me at this point? Isn't gaining gold a significant goal in this game? Why would you give so much away as a safeguard when you're so unlikely to be attacked? Who would kill you at night right now? Further, dying as a vanilla townie isn't the end of the world or anything, either. It's not like you're a Horseman killing people, or an Officer performing important actions. As far as I know, you're not doing anything particularly productive at night.

Gaining gold is significant (hence why mutiny should be a viable option at some stage). I'll tell you what I want, when I want, and you can demand all you want, but I network the way I want, you do it the way you want. When do I survive to the endgame Zack?

As above.

[Zack]

I've never seen you care so obsessively about your survival as town.

Why are you being so uncooperative? I'm not the enemy, here. I'm the town's best asset at the moment.

And again, who could you possibly trust more than the Captain?

[Visor]

I've never seen you care so obsessively about your survival as town. Obsessively? If the offer for survival is there, I'll take it. Gold isn't much use dead.

Why are you being so uncooperative? I'm not the enemy, here. I'm the town's best asset at the moment. No you're not.

And again, who could you possibly trust more than the Captain? I have a few people.

As above.

EDIT: Go look at ATPG mafia 2. I spent all my credits protecting myself, then stealing, to protect myself again. Go see TWC mafia where I protected myself correctly. I generally prefer to protect other people as doctor, but sometimes you just get a feeling you need to save yourself. I don't like dying in games, and protection is definitely a plus for me, as it stops people killing me, and gets a good alibi to those who are doing the protection.

[Zack]

Consider the following points:

1. Pirates care a great deal about gold.

2. Askthepizzaguy obviously cares a great deal about gold.

3. Visorslash does not care about gold.

4. Visorslash cares a great deal about his survival.

5. Visorslash is antagonistic towards and uncooperative with the obviously town Captain, and possibly mutinous, even though he does not care about gold.

6. Visorslash trusts several people more than the obviously town Captain.

Lynch Visorslash. I think we're barking up the wrong tree with Pizzaman. He's just reckless and gold-obsessed.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I've never seen you care so obsessively about your survival as town.

Why are you being so uncooperative? I'm not the enemy, here. I'm the town's best asset at the moment.

And again, who could you possibly trust more than the Captain?

I think Visorslash might be feeling mutinous as well, Captain. He's not going to give you a straight answer.

I admit it. I am working for a mutiny, and I love gold. The look of it, the shmell of it. The texture.

I love gold so much, I even lost my golden genitalia in an unfortunate smelting accident and was given the nickname diamond junk.

They're still gold but they have diamonds on it now. Very sparkly.

All right, so you caught me. I'm a greedy bastard.

Is that all you have for me Captain, or do you HONESTLY see me as scum? Because you knew better when you, spontaneously, decided to protect me when I asked ZERO people in this game to protect me the last two nights as I taunted Andres to no end.

Maybe I'm too reckless for my own good, but you're seriously off your nuts and bolts if you think I'm scum Tincow.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Nope, not Spanish. Just picked the wrong person to include in a mutiny, figured it was bound to happen eventually.

Why the change of heart, Tincow? You wanted the Captaincy.

You can't seriously believe that ONLY Spanish want a mutiny right now, or that it would be an altogether good idea for a Spanish to make the move to push the Captain overboard.

No, you're looking at a very gold-hungry townie. Zack's worth a lot of gold and I'm at that point where a little bit more gold would be really good for me.

Got my hand caught in the Captain's cookie jar is all. And no, I wouldn't make the allegation that the Captain is Spanish at this moment. Just got too much gold for his own good.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You also have to figure, it was I who concocted the gold steal/guarding scheme to begin with.

I can play well for the town and mind my own gold totals at the same time. You folks seem to forget there's two competitions going on.