Maritime abortions

[Kralizec]

"Their country their rules"

And the organisation isn't breaking those rules. They're merely removing individuals from the jurisdiction of that country, so that abortions can be performed legally. I know some countries have tried to outlaw that, which opens another can of worms. But I digress.

Anybody who knows enough and has the money can avoid bans like these by:
A) going to a country where abortion is legal
B) find a good doctor in Morocco who performs the procedure anyway

People who are outraged by what this organisation does tend to focus a lot on that it's a Dutch organisation doing something in another part of the world. I just don't get it.

I think that states should allow abortions, at least in the early stages of pregnancy. Morocco's ban on abortion is stupid and I support everyone who tries to get around it. Wether you agree or not is a matter of opinion. Women on Waves thinks it's an important women's rights issue and therefore tries to raise awareness of the issue and offers the procedure to women in countries where it's not available. Good for them. The argument that we should remain blind for what goes on in other countries, and that this organisation shouldn't do what it does, because the Netherlands is not a paradise with absolutely no problems is ridiculous.

[Fragony]

"Their country their rules"

And the organisation isn't breaking those rules. They're merely removing individuals from the jurisdiction of that country, so that abortions can be performed legally. I know some countries have tried to outlaw that, which opens another can of worms. But I digress.

Anybody who knows enough and has the money can avoid bans like these by:
A) going to a country where abortion is legal
B) find a good doctor in Morocco who performs the procedure anyway

People who are outraged by what this organisation does tend to focus a lot on that it's a Dutch organisation doing something in another part of the world. I just don't get it.

I think that states should allow abortions, at least in the early stages of pregnancy. Morocco's ban on abortion is stupid and I support everyone who tries to get around it. Wether you agree or not is a matter of opinion. Women on Waves thinks it's an important women's rights issue and therefore tries to raise awareness of the issue and offers the procedure to women in countries where it's not available. Good for them. The argument that we should remain blind for what goes on in other countries, and that this organisation shouldn't do what it does, because the Netherlands is not a paradise with absolutely no problems is ridiculous.

Yes they are breaking rules there is such a thing as good manners which includes never imposing yourself on others, you won't find it in any lawbook no, as that's all cold formalities. They refuse to accept that things are different there and they very much ought to have better things to do if they really care about women's rights. Attention whore's who do it safe, that's what they are, go out walking a la 'Femme de le la rue' I dare them to do that, but they are probably allready in their 99% white (every series needs a colored guy) neighbourhoods. You CAN have abortions in Marocco by the way there are even specialized clinics (friend told me don't hurt me if that's bull). But what fun is that if you have to flag a territory.

[Kralizec]

The organisation helps people avoiding a stupid law without risking criminal prosecution. Good manners have nothing to do with it, what matters is wether they crossed the law or not. Of course you don't have to like it.

So according to you, noboby should do (volunteer) work for an idealist cause unless they grew up in multi-racial slums? I don't know wether the members of the organisation are from privileged backgrounds, and I don't think it's important. I really don't see why they deserve all these personal attacks. I can only imagine that you lash out against them because you don't agree with their ideas on abortion. And that you ironically defend their culture because you agree with it in this case.

Yes, you can have abortions in Morocco if you know the right people. And maybe there are specialised clinics for it. But that's despite the fact that it's illegal. Presumably, the women who would have visited the abortion boat are unmarried women with not enough money or who don't have the right connections to dodge the law in their own country except by falling off the stairs or hiring some hack to "help" them in a dark alley.

[Fragony]

'Yes, you can have abortions in Morocco if you know the right people. And maybe there are specialised clinics for it. But that's despite the fact that it's illegal. Presumably, the women who would have visited the abortion boat are unmarried women with not enough money or who don't have the right connections to dodge the law in their own country except by falling off the stairs or hiring some hack to "help" them in a dark alley.'

common man they are a bunch of narcistic b*tches, I wonder how long how long they would be absolutely horrified once one of the women they really really just wanted to help gets murdered by her family.

[Greyblades]

Yes they are breaking rules there is such a thing as good manners which includes never imposing yourself on others, you won't find it in any lawbook no, as that's all cold formalities.

The rest of your post is opinion that I disagree with and mostly ignore, but what rules are they breaking presicely and who are they imposing on? They park themselves in port and arrange treat any woman who shows up willingly outside of the teritorial boundaries. They're not breaking any laws or they would have been arrested already, and, even ignoring that thier actions cost the governments or locals nothing, there are apparantly several moroccans/irish/spanish women want them there so they aren't exactly imposing.

[Fragony]

The rest of your post is opinion that I disagree with and mostly ignore, but what rules are they breaking presicely and who are they imposing on? They park themselves in port and arrange treat any woman who shows up willingly outside of the teritorial boundaries. They're not breaking any laws or they would have been arrested already, and, even ignoring that thier actions cost the governments or locals nothing, there are apparantly several moroccans/irish/spanish women want them there so they aren't exactly imposing.

They might not be breaking any formal laws but they are breaking promises they can't keep, it's cruel and senseless and very egocentric.

[Greyblades]

They might not be breaking any formal laws but they are breaking promises they can't keep, it's cruel and senseless and very egocentric.

"Breaking promises they cant keep"? What does that even mean? And how the is it cruel?

[Fragony]

"Breaking promises they cant keep"? What does that even mean? And how the is it cruel?

You see anything changing there soon?

[Conradus]

How is that a promise they made?