The House of Origin [Concluded]

**Double A** · 10-19-2012, 23:59

Originally Posted by TinCow

Vote: Double A

Originally Posted by TinCow

Something about him is rubbing me the wrong way. Can't really explain what it is exactly.

Even before today, I would've said the same of you. vote: abstain because I don't want to WIFOM. Is it still a WIFOM if I was going to vote for him anyway? Someone needs to write down an official WIFOM code of conduct.

**Ishmael** · 10-20-2012, 00:03

Originally Posted by Double A

Even before today, I would've said the same of you. vote: abstain because I don't want to WIFOM. Is it still a WIFOM if I was going to vote for him anyway? Someone needs to write down an official WIFOM code of conduct.

WIFOM code of conduct, rule number 1: just forget about WIFOM. It's a horribly overused concept often used to ignore perfectly valid arguments..

**Double A** · 10-20-2012, 00:06

That's a wonderful sentiment. unvote, vote: TinCow

**Montmorency** · 10-20-2012, 00:09

What we know: 4 attacked Tincow, and 2 protected him. 5 attacked Zack.

If these would reveal in-thread, vouching for each other's performance, we would be able to clear 11 individuals.

Edse and Makrell are likely town: they seem to have contacted a bunch of us concerning a Pizza-protection.

The other kills seem to have been 3rd-party and scum.

Seriously, guys: half the players revealed as town would break the back of the enemy. Group actions are group actions - it would be difficult to fake one's way out of this.

Vote: Tincow

This is the guy who twice in a row commandeered the lynch to save himself. You are going to let him slide by unhindered?

I was the one who attacked Tincow last night. My partners were ishmael, Arjos, and Double A. We could tolerate such desecration no more.

REVEAL

**Ishmael** · 10-20-2012, 00:21

Montmorency has basically said it all, so I'll just confirm all this - Monty, Double A, Arjos and I attacked TinCow, and I think it's pretty evident from the write-up that it wasn't one of the 'scum' kills (there seems to be two SKs and a mafia group operating, judging by the write-ups). The same is true for the group that killed Zack. I stand by my list of probable townies earlier, and as Montmorency mentioned particularly Makrell, who contacted three of us (but not me

) trying to protect Pizza, which seems a fairly legitimate townie move considering the likelihood that he would be attacked.

Also, unvote, vote: TinCow. Same as the others really - I have a funny feeling about you (as evidenced by the attack), and I don't really have anybody else I really think is scum.

**TinCow** · 10-20-2012, 00:40

Ah, so I actually have to defend myself this round. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to disappoint you, as I don't have much else to say. I've been active both nights as part of vig groups, both successful. On N1, I killed JoanK. One person (my partner) failed to submit orders, so there were only three of us, though the write-up does not clearly state that. We either got lucky there or one of us is scum. On N2, I killed Zack (sorry mate) with 4 other people. All of us submitted orders.

That's all I've got. Lynch away.

**Choxorn** · 10-20-2012, 00:46

Just because you guys were in the groups doesn't make you townie by default, at least not all of you. Mafia can infiltrate the groups, so why is it impossible for any member of your group to be mafia?

**Montmorency** · 10-20-2012, 00:55

Originally Posted by Tincow

I killed Zack (sorry mate) with 4 other people. All of us submitted orders.

If that's true, the others should be able to vouch for you.

Unvote; in the meantime.

Originally Posted by Choxorn

Just because you guys were in the groups doesn't make you townie by default, at least not all of you. Mafia can infiltrate the groups, so why is it impossible for any member of your group to be mafia?

All four of us participated in the attack, as is visible in the writeup. On N1, we tried to kill Tincow and protect Arjos, but split 2-2. If the scum could attack as a group of 2 yesterday and this night, then it indicates that of these two possibilities -

The mafia may be infiltrated into these starting groups, or may be in their own groups.

- the latter is the case. If the scum are not spread around, then our initial groups are secure.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 10-20-2012, 00:54

Originally Posted by TinCow

Ah, so I actually have to defend myself this round. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to disappoint you, as I don't have much else to say. I've been active both nights as part of vig groups, both successful. On N1, I killed JoanK. One person (my partner) failed to submit orders, so there were only three of us, though the write-up does not clearly state that. We either got lucky there or one of us is scum. On N2, I killed Zack (sorry mate) with 4 other people. All of us submitted orders.

That's all I've got. Lynch away.

Who else was involved?

**Riedquat** · 10-20-2012, 00:43

Originally Posted by Ishmael

Montmorency has basically said it all, so I'll just confirm all this - Monty, Double A, Arjos and I attacked TinCow, and I think it's pretty evident from the write-up that it wasn't one of the 'scum' kills (there seems to be two SKs and a mafia group operating, judging by the write-ups). The same is true for the group that killed Zack. I stand by my list of probable townies earlier, and as Montmorency mentioned particularly Makrell, who contacted three of us (but not me

) trying to protect Pizza, which seems a fairly legitimate townie move considering the likelihood that he would be attacked.

Also, unvote, vote: TinCow. Same as the others really - I have a funny feeling about you (as evidenced by the attack), and I don't really have anybody else I really think is scum.

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