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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhughthom View Post
    How about the last time England under 21s played there, Justin Hoyte and Nedum Onouha were racially abused. UEFA gave Serbia one of their lovely and oh so deterring fines.
    Didn't see that game so I can't comment. Will try to find it and see.

    Who said anything about institutional racism, are you saying racism is fine so long as it's spontaneous?
    Way to miss the point. If you act like a prick and get insulted because of it, with insults ranging from the colour of your skin to size of your nose and sexual habits of your sister, that's not racism in my book. May be rude, but definitely not racism.

    Way to miss the point, I'm not talking about the issue, I'm talking about a refusal to admit there is an issue. Do you work for the Serbian FA, you remind me of their statement last week.
    Racism is West's issue. It is the issue of anyone who had colonies and was involved with slave trade. We don't have that issue, not because we're better or something, but simply cause we didn't have practically any contact with blacks. Maybe if Serbia had been a colonial empire, involved in slavery and slave trade, with many centuries of racism and treating blacks like subhumans we would have had the same issues Britain has. People here simply don't see blacks in that light and for them there isn't much difference between insulting someone because he has a big nose or because he's black. For you guys, the former is considered rude and the latter a crime basically, for us, both are rude. Those same guys who insulted Danny Rose would go to a bar tomorrow and drink happily with another black guy. For them, Danny Rose was a guy who played for the opposing team and acted like a prick. That's the whole story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    I have yet to meet a Serb or Croation who didn't seriously scare me
    What do you mean? We're all warm and cuddly.
    Last edited by Sarmatian; 10-25-2012 at 11:11.

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