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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    As for taxing the rich, it is just the only option. I'm not saying we need 90% taxes or anything, but at least 50%. During our most successful years, the rich paid far higher taxes than they do today.
    As I said, lets close the numerous tax loopholes and see what happens.

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    The whole notion of 'punishing success will end success' is just scare-mongering by people who don't want to give up a lavish lifestyle.
    Thats debatable.

    And Strike, I may be wrong about the economy, as I have no real experience with it other than articles I read online and from Wikipedia. So please, teach me.

    And please, show me evidence of the FBI thing. A bit less ambiguous would be lovely. Again, Im not saying that the FBI is perfect. They are far from it and they do need reform. But we need a centralized law enforcement agency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post

    And Strike, I may be wrong about the economy, as I have no real experience with it other than articles I read online and from Wikipedia. So please, teach me.
    There is no may be, you are wrong. How I teach you depends on what kind of taxes you are talking about. The ones where Mitt Romneys first 250,000 gets taxed the same as everyone else. Or the one where Apple sends its money to Ireland, the Holland, then Ireland, Then to the Caymans, all while paying an effective rate of 2%

    And please, show me evidence of the FBI thing. A bit less ambiguous would be lovely.
    Well we could start with Waco and work our way back to wiretapping uppity Negroes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    Leonard Peltier's been sitting in prison for decades on a bogus charge, thanks to two FBI agents who decided to start a shootout on an Indian reservation.

    But, to be honest, I think the ATF has killed more people in cold blood than the FBI, unless we count gangsters.
    Interesting, never heard of Leonard Peltier, but now I know. And I will say again, the FBI is not perfect, and I firmly believe that it does need big changes. But I believe that reform is easier than tearing down and building from scratch. Which was my main point to begin with.
    And if you havent seen the South Park episode with the ATF (s03e08), you need to.
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