"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
Short easy and painless, you guys really need to think things through better before you embark on experimenting and start outweighting things.
Last edited by Fragony; 11-26-2012 at 16:00.
As a hypothetical - if legalisation guaranteed not to increase consumption, increased tax revenue, saved money on prisons and took out a big chunk of organised crime. Would you be in favour?
I'm trying to understand if you don't believe that these will happen or if your objections have other origins.
Last edited by Idaho; 11-26-2012 at 16:24.
"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
"If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill
Social stigma is reliant on so much more than the law. Being a drunk is still a source of shame for many an individual and family, despite what is said about addiction being an illness, and the activity being entirely legal. Dont need to look far within UK and US society to see other examples of perfectly legal behaviour which carries a social stigma within particular communities.
Would you still be in favour of it if it would greatly actually aid chunks of organised crime and make everybody worse off just because of you being kinda egocentric, being egocentric enough to allow that to happen just because you feel you have the right to smoke it. Because that's kinda it in the end. Drugs are currency. You cannot fight it.
Please show me an example of a first-world nation where decriminalizing an intoxicant has increased organized crime. Because every example I can think of has the opposite effect.
Counter-factual posturing is counter-factual.
"Drugs are currency. You cannot fight it."—another sentence that seems to be saying something, but on close examination turns out to be word salad.
Last edited by Lemur; 11-26-2012 at 17:14.
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