Was Hitler a christian? and atheist morallity

[Montmorency]

Clearly, you haven't been paying attention for the last half-decade.

I only became active here a year ago.

Not necessarily that you think you're the only true Christian, but that you would have a high standard that few could meet. I feel like I've picked up at least that much about you...

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I only became active here a year ago.

Not necessarily that you think you're the only true Christian, but that you would have a high standard that few could meet. I feel like I've picked up at least that much about you...

...because Christians set standards they think they can live up to?

No.

Try learning about my religion - even HoreTore and Kadagar know I don't live up to my own ideals.

[a completely inoffensive name]

ITT: Everyone should read a book before talking apparently.

Monty needs to read the bible.
PVC needs to read a book about not being smug.
Brenus and The Stranger need to read the dictionary.
T.R. needs to read some Dr. Seuss books so he can finish 1st grade english class.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

ITT: Everyone should read a book before talking apparently.

Monty needs to read the bible.
PVC needs to read a book about not being smug.
Brenus and The Stranger need to read the dictionary.
T.R. needs to read some Dr. Seuss books so he can finish 1st grade english class.

Smug?

I'm bitter and angry.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Smug?

I'm bitter and angry.

Yes, smug in how bitter and angry you are.

[Montmorency]

A lot of people call themselves christian while they don't believe (often don't know) its basic tenets. Besides, there isn't even consensus on what those basic tenets are.

Yes!

Or if you renounce to be a Christian. And if the case of Hitler, there is no evidence he did.

Now it's a bit more expansive - otherwise, none could technically move from Christianity to atheism without producing a contradiction. But it denies that there can be an implicit rejection of Christianity's tenets, whatever they may be. I notice you don't ascribe any tenets, by the way. It's a very broad - still - definition that does what it can to prevent deconstruction. Any believer in any higher power is necessarily a Christian if raised in a Catholic household. Isn't it possible for an individual to be deeply spiritual without being Christian? Without believing in a Christian doctrine set by any existing sect?

...because Christians set standards they think they can live up to?

No.

Try learning about my religion - even HoreTore and Kadagar know I don't live up to my own ideals.

You're holding me to a claim I'd just disavowed and clarified!

[Brenus]

“Isn't it possible for an individual to be deeply spiritual without being Christian? Without believing in a Christian doctrine set by any existing sect?”: I am probably not the best to answer this question. In theory, I would say yes. An individual can decide the follow Christ outside the official Churches. It was done before, so a person decide he is a Christian. The problem is the ones who tried were declared Heresies. But, today, we have different sects in Christianity, disagreeing on the Mary Virginity, Holiness of Icons, and marriage of Priest, women, and have different liturgies. All of them describe themselves as Christian. So, an individual can decide he is a Christian for his own reason. And others religions have as well deeply spiritual individuals so, yes, it is possible...
This basically what I said.

“Brenus and The Stranger need to read the dictionary”: Why? What is the definition I am missing?

[The Stranger]

ITT: Everyone should read a book before talking apparently.

Monty needs to read the bible.
PVC needs to read a book about not being smug.
Brenus and The Stranger need to read the dictionary.
T.R. needs to read some Dr. Seuss books so he can finish 1st grade english class.

cant remember im posting in this thread XD

[Montmorency]

follow Christ outside the official Churches.

Aha - but did Hitler follow Christ? I'd say that he didn't. Hitler didn't even believe himself to be following Christ, certainly not the Biblical Christ. So let's say we take this label "Christian" and apply it to him - an individual who does not "follow Christ", nor any existing Christian doctrine - indeed reviling organized Christianity - but applies his own special brand of spirituality. This is a Christian? Anyone with spiritual belief can be described as a Christian, having had a Christian upbringing? You don't see anything off about this?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Aha - but did Hitler follow Christ? I'd say that he didn't. Hitler didn't even believe himself to be following Christ, certainly not the Biblical Christ. So let's say we take this label "Christian" and apply it to him - an individual who does not "follow Christ", nor any existing Christian doctrine - indeed reviling organized Christianity - but applies his own special brand of spirituality. This is a Christian? Anyone with spiritual belief can be described as a Christian, having had a Christian upbringing? You don't see anything off about this?

"Christian" is short for the Latin Christianus FideliS, literally "faithful of (to) Christ" but more idiosyncratically a disciple of Christ.

So Hitler doesn't qualify.

[Beskar]

I think technically Hitler was a Mysticist with self-styled screwing up and influence from Christianity. So Hilter cannot condemn Christianity for being what he is. The only way you can truly judge is to look towards Christian institutions during that time, such as the Catholic and Protestant church and their various circles of influence. If they were condemning the actions of Hitler, then it is not fair to paint tar upon them, however, if they were awfully silence or promoting Hitler's agenda, then you can pour the tar on, cover in feathers and set them mess alight.

[a completely inoffensive name]

“Brenus and The Stranger need to read the dictionary”: Why? What is the definition I am missing?

cant remember im posting in this thread XD

Oohhhhhh ****, I conflated this thread with the other total relism thread.

Either way, you both should still read the dictionary because it helps your vocabulary and thus raises your SAT scores on the dumb written portion.

[a completely inoffensive name]

“Brenus and The Stranger need to read the dictionary”: Why? What is the definition I am missing?

cant remember im posting in this thread XD

Oohhhhhh ****, I conflated this thread with the other total relism thread.

Either way, you both should still read the dictionary because it helps your vocabulary and thus raises your SAT scores on the dumb written portion.

[The Stranger]

Oohhhhhh ****, I conflated this thread with the other total relism thread.

Either way, you both should still read the dictionary because it helps your vocabulary and thus raises your SAT scores on the dumb written portion.

im not a native english speaker so its hard to translate certain technical terms to another language. you could be helpful and point out where you think im using a wrong definition.

[a completely inoffensive name]

im not a native english speaker so its hard to translate certain technical terms to another language. you could be helpful and point out where you think im using a wrong definition.

Don't worry about it, it was a dumb joke by me. I saw in the other thread you and Brenus talking about semantics and definitions about atheism and belief. So obviously, the joke is that we should just open a dictionary and see what "the answer" is.

My last statement was just silliness from American high school. In order to do well on the SAT (a main test for getting into uni), people tell you all sorts of things in order to prepare for it, including reading the dictionary so you can look super smart in your 20 min essay portion.