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    Default Re: Wtf, ma

    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    You are a class A idiot if you think guns are not more deadly then knives.

    For starters the military would just buy k bars, swords, shields and sandals if that was true.

    Also the Indians would have bet off the early settlers. As he case was a gun beats an old form tomahawk.

    The second amendment would have been the right to bear blades.

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    Look at the Chinese attacker using a knife. Two dozen wounded children. The American, kills his parents and then two dozen children.

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    Now to some this latest tragedy is the price for freedom. Remarkably this tastes mighty like a fetid zombie feast, twenty plus children dead for a taste of freedom.

    Now it's your country, your lifestyle, your laws, your outcomes. With actions come responsibility.

    So those advocating this lifestyle are also collectively responsible for the outcome. If you want to crow for every Olympic gold, or your local sports team win, or whatever other part of the nation, you will also have to cop it on the chin when your laws enable such a tragedy.

    Strangely enough the rest of the free world is capable of dealing with gun ownership in a much more coherent manner and yet the US ranks below a lot of these countries in measures of freedom, wealth and health.
    Step off your high horse for one second so that you may see what it is you are arguing.

    What you want is to remove the ability of mentally ill people to harm others. But what you don't realize is that guns are simply the most deadly and convenient way of going about killing someone. The point of Sasaki's article is not to make the point that a knife is just as deadly as a gun. The point is that whatever gets into the mind of someone as deranged as the shooter, there will be possible deaths and at least some injuries and you have done nothing, absolutely nothing to treat the root of the problem.

    You can look down on Americans all you want by making the proud decision of wrapping everyone in bubble wrap to protect us from each other, but you are committing a more egregious atrocity by acting as if you have done anything more than cure a symptom of a much more serious problem. There is never a single case of a sane human snapping and becoming a mass murderer within a day, there are signs and there are means to help but we as a society refuse to recognize those signs and we refuse to promote such help to those who need it.

    Your and other people's willingness to turn this into a blame the gun conversation yet again, just shows that you don't really understand where the americans are coming from and you speak from a place of ignorance. American society refuses to ban guns because we view situations like this under the context of an individual who has made choices, the questions we strive to answer are why did he make these choices and how we can prevent it again. That is the real core issue.

    All you want to do is talk about how he made those choices. And it's the most unproductive conversation to be having time and time again when these tragedies happen.
    Last edited by a completely inoffensive name; 12-14-2012 at 23:35.

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