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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    I agree statistically speaking it used to be a lot more dangerous with guns. An American during the War of Independence was ten times more likely to die of a gunshot wound then a citizen of today.
    No shit Sherlock

    I agree with Panzer by the way, shootings like this hit hard but are very rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    No shit Sherlock

    I agree with Panzer by the way, shootings like this hit hard but are very rare.
    It's more common in the US than the rest of the western world combined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    It's more common in the US than the rest of the western world combined.
    US is a big country. I think the US and Europe taken as a whole are pretty much even. Not a statistically significant difference at least. We have had this in Norway, Finland, Germany, Netherlands, I wouldn't say it is dramatically more common in the US. A loner gone nuts, Columbine, Tech whatwasit, the Joker, and this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    US is a big country. I think the US and Europe taken as a whole are pretty much even. Not a statistically significant difference at least. We have had this in Norway, Finland, Germany, Netherlands, I wouldn't say it is dramatically more common in the US. A loner gone nuts, Columbine, Tech whatwasit, the Joker, and this one.
    Europe has over 700 million people. The US is a lot less than that.

    If Americans really want the right to have loads of really dangerous weapons, and are happy with the side-effects, then fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    Europe has over 700 million people. The US is a lot less than that.

    If Americans really want the right to have loads of really dangerous weapons, and are happy with the side-effects, then fine.
    I think it has more to do with being in a highly competitive society personally, all that 'be what you can be' nonsense as not everybody can be the best, becomming prom-queen and things like that, being pretty good should be more than enough to get by. I can understand why people can get lost in that, but I wouldn't blame the guns for it. More a matter of self-worthiness that is under attack for some.

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    No, it's got to do with having shitloads of guns floating about the place, not not being prom queen.

    Moderate alcohol consumption has plenty of social benefits. It can also cause a great deal of harm, which is why its sale and consumption are placed under a whole range of different restrictions. But alcohol isn't explicitly designed to kill people, where as hand guns and assault rifles explicitly and solely are.
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    There are shitloads of guns everywhere. It's a social problem people can snap when picked upon. Just this week this poor girl threw herselve before a train here in front of her classmates. A different outcome for the same problem really. She wanted to make a point. Andres made a great case here in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    It's more common in the US than the rest of the western world combined.
    WE need incidence, not prevalence.

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