Gun Control

[Fragony]

No. I like the idea of carry with some training and I intentionally left this out of the initial post

I don't mind owning one but why would you actually carry something that lethal. It can only get you into trouble

[Hooahguy]

I don't mind owning one but why would you actually carry something that lethal. It can only get you into trouble

Protection, really. Guns are the great equalizer- an attacker might have 200lbs on me, but I have a gun and a bullet goes into him just the same as it would for me. While you may not need one in the Netherlands, or many parts of Western Europe for that matter, I wouldnt walk alone late at night in pretty much any US city. Especially Chicago. A friend of mine from there has been mugged numerous times in that city.

[Fragony]

Protection, really. Guns are the great equalizer- an attacker might have 200lbs on me, but I have a gun and a bullet goes into him just the same as it would for me. While you may not need one in the Netherlands, or many parts of Western Europe for that matter, I wouldnt walk alone late at night in pretty much any US city. Especially Chicago. A friend of mine from there has been mugged numerous times in that city.

Give them what they want if you get mugged, might be humiliating but it's better

[Hooahguy]

Not in the case of rape.

[Fragony]

Not in the case of rape.

Can't control everything. But you should never leave a girl unattended among drunk people anyway. Can't bring a gun into a nghtclub anyhow

[Hooahguy]

And rape is only committed by drunk people in nightclubs?

[Beskar]

And rape is only committed by drunk people in nightclubs?

If you want to be specific, vast majority of rape cases is where you know the rapist, such a family member or friend of the family.

But the stereotypical example in movies and media is drunk girl in skimpy outfit attempting to get home, perhaps even doped, then grubby ugly drunk person targets them in a back alleyway. Fragony is more saying that the night clubs would have prevented the girl from having a firearm on her person and Frags recommended not going home alone in a vulnerable state. Which are examples of issues which subscribe to that stereotype.