I apologize to everyone.

[Kadagar_AV]

Glad to see the spirit of Cecil Rhodes still hasn't died. And America is apparently the racist country.

Elaborate?




EDIT: As an example, I for one - if I had two equal candidates to join my sprint team or marathon team - would go with a black guy before a white guy.

Why?

Because the odds are with me on the negroe progressing more.

[jirisys]

Because the odds are with me on the negroe progressing more.

El negro quiere bailar.

http://journals.witpress.com/paperin...=400&width=600

~Jirisys ()

[Kadagar_AV]

El negro quiere bailar.

http://journals.witpress.com/paperin...=400&width=600

~Jirisys ()

Thanks for the link pointing at the physical side of things, and the quote on the cultural factor :)

[a completely inoffensive name]

Elaborate?

EDIT: As an example, I for one - if I had two equal candidates to join my sprint team or marathon team - would go with a black guy before a white guy.

Why?

Because the odds are with me on the negroe progressing more.

The minute you brought up IQ scores with a serious face was when I really stopped taking your argument for anything other than racism. Why did you even bother substituting black with green in your original analogy? Just say what you are thinking.

[Fragony]

The minute you brought up IQ scores with a serious face was when I really stopped taking your argument for anything other than racism. Why did you even bother substituting black with green in your original analogy? Just say what you are thinking.

Bringing up IQ is of course racism as it suggests differences between races, but what if that is simply true. Why wouldn't it be true for humans if it's true for dogs

[a completely inoffensive name]

Bringing up IQ is of course racism as it suggests differences between races, but what if that is simply true. Why wouldn't it be true for humans if it's true for dogs

Different breeds of dogs have been experiencing very strong artificial selection by humans for different traits for thousands of years. No one has been doing the same for humans.

[Hax]

Define "race".

[Fragony]

Define "race".

Easy, in general whites, blacks, asians and arabs.

The world IQ-map shows the obvious differences. Asians are the smartest and blacks the dumbest. You don't have to like that but it's true

[Hax]

The problem is that the word Arab doesn't mean anything​.

[HoreTore]

Easy, in general whites, blacks, asians and arabs.

The world IQ-map shows the obvious differences. Asians are the smartest and blacks the dumbest. You don't have to like that but it's true

Swing and a miss.

There's a lot of nonsense posted in the Backroom, but your claims on world IQ-scores is definitely the worst. Not only is your point rubbish - even worse is it that the data you back your claims on doesn't even exist.

I'm not sure whether to laugh or to cry, it's just so pathetic I simply do not know where to begin.

[Kadagar_AV]

The minute you brought up IQ scores with a serious face was when I really stopped taking your argument for anything other than racism. Why did you even bother substituting black with green in your original analogy? Just say what you are thinking.

Why I substituted black with green? To show the cultural factor, You for one immediately assume I talk about blacks when I mention a human subgroup prone to anger and stupidity.

Why are we pretending like these physical and cultural differences doesn't exist? Am I in todays world supposed to BOTH consider myself intellectual AND think all human races are equal in every regard, all actual facts aside?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Why I substituted black with green? To show the cultural factor, You for one immediately assume I talk about blacks when I mention a human subgroup prone to anger and stupidity.

Why are we pretending like these physical and cultural differences doesn't exist? Am I in todays world supposed to BOTH consider myself intellectual AND think all human races are equal in every regard, all actual facts aside?

No one is pretending these cultural differences don't exist. That's the point of the book is to try and show why these cultural differences exist. What's incredibly perplexing is how eager people are to start calling the blacks and the browns naturally dumb when books like The New Jim Crow make it a point to show just how much the physical differences we may perceive are in fact a result of cultural oppression and chains that whites continue to support.

It's racist white Europeans that try to pass the buck on why Africa is so fucked up. When you abandon a continent with arbitrary drawn lines that run right through multiple tribal lands and say "here's democracy! Now it's all on you if you fuck up!", you should not be surprised if 50 years later, there is still violence and power struggles.

It's racist americans that try to pass the buck on why so many African Americans are in jail. When you finally dismantle a system of active segregation and suppression but neglect to actually you know, change the tone of entire of body laws that still exist besides the Civil Rights Act and then say, "Look we let you vote now! Any problems you have is your fault now!"...yeah you should not be surprised when 50 years later there are still systemic issues within the african american community. And no, idealistic liberal laws that tried to force blacks and whites to be buddy-buddy did nothing to change the tone of the general body of laws that we all live by. Blacks were actively repressed socioeconomically up until 50 years ago and the laws have always punished the poor the hardest. So even though you are now no longer kicking a man while he is down, you are still sitting on his head and asking him why he is struggling so hard to stand up.

[Greyblades]

It's racist white Europeans that try to pass the buck on why Africa is so fucked up. When you abandon a continent with arbitrary drawn lines that run right through multiple tribal lands and say "here's democracy! Now it's all on you if you fuck up!", you should not be surprised if 50 years later, there is still violence and power struggles.

That would be the fault of American anti colonialism pressure making us leave too quickly to sort out any of the borders properly.

Personally I think we should have incorperated them into our own democracy, stayed together in a reforged federation of equals instead of just breaking up, but that's just me, pointing out that national self determination isnt the cure all end all you guys attest it is.

This is as much as I need http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&au...7EW_cTNSzCM%3A

[sarcasm] Yes because iq is the perfect intelligence indicator and totally takes into account the lack of educational capabilities causing it instead of "natural stupidity" [/sarcasm]

[Fragony]

If we would consider that as well it only gets worse, because by our standards most that were born here and that did an education here are retarded as well

[Hax]

But then again, that goes for Dutch people too, as you aptly demonstrate with each post in this thread.

[Ironside]

Elaborate?

EDIT: As an example, I for one - if I had two equal candidates to join my sprint team or marathon team - would go with a black guy before a white guy.

Why?

Because the odds are with me on the negroe progressing more.

You should also pick the Swedish hockey player and the Norweigian skiier, because the success of the group identity will influence their results. And it's around there things get really messy.