responding to common objections to bible

[Kadagar_AV]

I think you misunderstand sir, i said your claim that there is somehow no evidence for god is false and you did not support at all.

Wait... You want us to... Prove that there are no evidence?

At all times, I have a invisible leprechaun floating above me. Not only invisible, but ethereal, You can't touch him. Also, he never speaks when others are around, or when there are recording devices on in the vicinity.

Now prove me wrong, mmmkay?

[Rhyfelwyr]

Wait... You want us to... Prove that there are no evidence?

At all times, I have a invisible leprechaun floating above me. Not only invisible, but ethereal, You can't touch him. Also, he never speaks when others are around, or when there are recording devices on in the vicinity.

Now prove me wrong, mmmkay?

Comparing God to invisible leprechauns or unicorns or whatever doesn't work.

The concept of God (as most of us in this thread mean by it) is a response to existential questions like how the material universe came to be - namely his role as a creator that transcends time and space, which (the theory goes) must according to their nature have a beginning. The properties we attribute to God tend to derive from this - his omnipotence, omnipresence etc.

The same does not hold true for your invisible leprechaun. Why has this unique creature taken on the particular form of a leprechaun? How did it come to be? Why does it have such strange properties as invisibility?

To challenge the particulars of various religions is one thing, but the concept of God more generally is not as silly as you make it out to be.

[Brenus]

“Many catholic dont do it, i think to be like jeusus unmarried.” Nope: Council of Trento (ending in 1563), women being evil (no soul) they are leading men to perversion and perdition.

[total relism]

“Many catholic dont do it, i think to be like jeusus unmarried.” Nope: Council of Trento (ending in 1563), women being evil (no soul) they are leading men to perversion and perdition.

please provide.as i said before, today's age people believe anything they hear.

[Papewaio]

The invisible leprechaun and the omnipresent yet not measurable god have the same level of proof.

Attaching desires such as how the universe was created or wishing to live forever to one of these does not decrease the burden of truth required. Nor does having an emotional attachement make it make it any easier to prove or disprove a negative.

Proof of the negative is not possible no matter how much importance is attached to the item.

KAV leprechaun and the Christian God having different size fan clubs doesn't change the ability to disprove either. At least with KAVs leprechaun we know where we are likely to find KAV searching for his pot of gold in the rainbow hued woman of the world...

[Rhyfelwyr]

The invisible leprechaun and the omnipresent yet not measurable god have the same level of proof.

Attaching desires such as how the universe was created or wishing to live forever to one of these does not decrease the burden of truth required.

To mention the creation of the universe by God is not necessarily expressing a desire or wishful thinking - it is an attempt at an explanation, a theory, in which a being with the properties we attribute to God is posited to exist based on its necessity for the existence of the material universe. As such, it should be assessed on its merits as a theory, and not speculation on an individual's motivations for believing in it.

The invisible leprechuan is not an attempt to explain anything, and no reasoning is offered to suggest why, in the absence of more direct evidence, this being must by necessity exist.

Furthermore, the concept of God as an omnipotent, omnipresent etc being is consistent in that it is based on his relationship with the universe.

On the other hand, the design of the invisible leprechuan seems to make no sense, far less have any basis for positing its existence. How, for example, does it manage to float above Kadagar's head, yet still retain the form of a creature designed to live on earth bound by gravity and similar things? How has its leprechaun skin managed to manipulate light in such a way as to achieve invisibility?

[total relism]

The invisible leprechaun and the omnipresent yet not measurable god have the same level of proof.

Attaching desires such as how the universe was created or wishing to live forever to one of these does not decrease the burden of truth required. Nor does having an emotional attachement make it make it any easier to prove or disprove a negative.

Proof of the negative is not possible no matter how much importance is attached to the item.

KAV leprechaun and the Christian God having different size fan clubs doesn't change the ability to disprove either. At least with KAVs leprechaun we know where we are likely to find KAV searching for his pot of gold in the rainbow hued woman of the world...

please bring this up when i do future thread, as i said before, i cant believe how much people today dont question things and believe what there told. Not to mention i will show you believe in things worse than a invisible leprechaun, assuming your atheist.

[total relism]

sorry

[HoreTore]

Comparing God to invisible leprechauns or unicorns or whatever doesn't work.

Perhaps not, but he can certainly claim midi-chlorians.