Indeed. He alone supported 17 years of Tory government. Well done that man.Originally Posted by Tiaexz
Re: Enoch Powell. Michael Foot. Nye Bevan. Tony Benn.
Indeed. He alone supported 17 years of Tory government. Well done that man.
Last edited by InsaneApache; 05-03-2013 at 00:37.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
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"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
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Please explain.Indeed. He alone supported 17 years of Tory government. Well done that man.
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Re: Enoch Powell. Michael Foot. Nye Bevan. Tony Benn.
Blimey! Are you sure?
OK then. His views were so far to the left that no sane person would vote for him. Yes a great speaker and thinker but what he was saying and thinking turned millions away from the Labour party. It's an uncomfortable truth for the left but Maggie was voted in three times with more votes than Blair ever got. She did this by persuading huge swathes of the working classes (et moi) to vote Conservative.
It's no coincidence that I haven't voted Conservative in over twenty years. Neither have the huge swathes of the working classes that previously did so.
The workers had had enough of the bullying from the trades union movement* and fought back.
*I was a member of NUPE from 1980 to 1990. Our leader, Rodney Bickerstaff was re-elected three times in that period. Not once did I, nor any of my colleagues get a vote, offered a vote or even told that there was an election on.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
Re: Enoch Powell. Michael Foot. Nye Bevan. Tony Benn.
I am sure you like this paragraph of his about moving to the 'Left' whilst in office:Indeed. He alone supported 17 years of Tory government. Well done that man.
I quite likes the idea of his Commonwealth of Britain BillAs a minister, I experienced the power of industrialists and bankers to get their way by use of the crudest form of economic pressure, even blackmail, against a Labour Government. Compared to this, the pressure brought to bear in industrial disputes is minuscule. This power was revealed even more clearly in 1976 when the IMF secured cuts in our public expenditure. These lessons led me to the conclusion that the UK is only superficially governed by MPs and the voters who elect them. Parliamentary democracy is, in truth, little more than a means of securing a periodical change in the management team, which is then allowed to preside over a system that remains in essence intact. If the British people were ever to ask themselves what power they truly enjoyed under our political system they would be amazed to discover how little it is, and some new Chartist agitation might be born and might quickly gather momentum.
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Re: Enoch Powell. Michael Foot. Nye Bevan. Tony Benn.
Nice. Just get rid of the British citizens you find annoying. What a berk.British jurisdiction over Northern Ireland would be ended.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
Re: Enoch Powell. Michael Foot. Nye Bevan. Tony Benn.
As somebody who has lived for six years in Northern Ireland I cannot agree with Benn's proposal to offload the six counties; and thats coming from someone who agrees with the idea of Irish reunification. However the abolition of the monarchy and House of Lords (assuming there was a sufficient degree of reform as well, so we didn't simply go from being a monarchy to an oligarchic republic) do appeal to me.
As to your thoughts on Benn in the late 70s and 80s, InsaneApache, I would agree with them, despite being a great fan of Benn.
Re: Enoch Powell. Michael Foot. Nye Bevan. Tony Benn.
I think it more allowing reunification of Ireland then Ireland possibly rejoining in the said commonwealth as equals than getting rid of British Citizens you find annoying.
Last edited by Beskar; 05-03-2013 at 11:57.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Re: Enoch Powell. Michael Foot. Nye Bevan. Tony Benn.
So just ignore the majority then? Still a berk.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
Re: Enoch Powell. Michael Foot. Nye Bevan. Tony Benn.
Sounds like every politician known to man.
Last edited by Greyblades; 05-03-2013 at 12:33.
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Re: Enoch Powell. Michael Foot. Nye Bevan. Tony Benn.
There's nothing like a 51% majority to make things a bit awkward.
Re: Enoch Powell. Michael Foot. Nye Bevan. Tony Benn.
Dmocracy does not, however, rest on majority rule. Majority opinion will have to be put aside in a large number of cases if a nation wants to claim democracy.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Enoch Powell. Michael Foot. Nye Bevan. Tony Benn.
Seems like a pointless and dangerous piece of legislation.
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
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