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    Default Re: Today, I was rather violently accosted by a rather intriguing gentleman

    Authorities generally don't do anything, unfortunately, as they are mostly hand-tied with what they can do.

    He might be an alright guy who took things the wrong way, maybe he has been the victim of racism in the past and took a bit of a knee-jerk reaction.
    No, he was clearly a bully looking for trouble. A victim generally might get upset, might mention something then walk away and at first this might have the case as he failed to understand the crux of the discussion. However, from the rest, you can see how the gentleman was clearly sizing the group up, he was trying to examine their reactions and like a predatory animal wanted to use raw physical strength to make himself feel powerful. I do know what Hax looks like and he is no stone cold Steve Austin, anyone who wants to try to get him into a street brawl is clearly trying to pick for an easy target.
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    There was several of you and he was alone. Why didn't you beat the poop out of him?

    But, you decided to take it up to the people in the offices. You certainly made their day. If they take you seriously, that means a lot more work for them, potentially bad rep for the university, blah, blah, blah... The easiest thing for them is to just drop it with "no harm done" mantra. When you've already chosen this route, don't stop and continue to pester them demanding action.

    Next time, beat the poop out of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaexz View Post
    No, he was clearly a bully looking for trouble. A victim generally might get upset, might mention something then walk away and at first this might have the case as he failed to understand the crux of the discussion. However, from the rest, you can see how the gentleman was clearly sizing the group up, he was trying to examine their reactions and like a predatory animal wanted to use raw physical strength to make himself feel powerful. I do know what Hax looks like and he is no stone cold Steve Austin, anyone who wants to try to get him into a street brawl is clearly trying to pick for an easy target.
    It could be subconcious (probably is), but yeah anyone who is avoiding an actual debate for trying to start a beating instead is certainly acting like a bully.

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    Authorities generally don't do anything, unfortunately, as they are mostly hand-tied with what they can do.

    They do get a bit less limitations if there's a pattern at least. So if this is standard behavior for our intriguing gentleman, then they can have better enforcement than a few stern words.
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    Sounds to me like you won. With Uni personnel involved the event is swallowed by the system. Having it advanced by your supervisor keeps it all nicely bureaucratically correct and can be dealt with internally; much to their relief.

    Let it "work out" on its own and move on :)
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    Establish your own unilateral solution and break his nose.
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    Trying to pursue the matter further is pointless. If he belongs to what the university views as a "minority" or "protected" or "vulnerable" group, then short of murder or grievous assault he can do no wrong, and in the case he does do wrong, then it is a result of him being oppressed for so long. It is impossible for racial or ethnic or religious minorities to be racist, Chris Matthews says so. You lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    Trying to pursue the matter further is pointless. If he belongs to what the university views as a "minority" or "protected" or "vulnerable" group, then short of murder or grievous assault he can do no wrong, and in the case he does do wrong, then it is a result of him being oppressed for so long. It is impossible for racial or ethnic or religious minorities to be racist, Chris Matthews says so. You lose.
    Won't work. Both Hax and the guy are Arabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Won't work. Both Hax and the guy are Arabs.
    Fifty shades of Arab. The litmus test for racism is a fairly low one based on the person feeling insulted. That we don't expect mature debate but a physical thrashing is a sad reflection on society.

    That we expect that debate should be in Uni but not outside. It's a very materialistic view that a boundary of atoms should determine thinking over brawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Won't work. Both Hax and the guy are Arabs.
    Doesn't matter. Hax has a different opinion than the coddled one. The coddled one wins by virtue of being coddled. It doesn't matter if Hax is correct
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    Its a sign of the times that people have trouble figuring out how to respond to violence, or the threat of violence, or just an antagonizing person. Short Answer: Punch 'em in the throat. Long Answer: Punch 'em in the throat, if you can get away with it. Or you can take the high-road, because fighting usually isn't worth it, but taking the high road usually means you'll have to keep taking the high road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Chin is better, INSTANT KNOCKOUT
    Strike two.

    Break their nose. Painful, eyes will tear up and vision will go to hell, not as easy to breathe, etc. Break nose and run.

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    Sounds to me like you won.
    agreed, just a shame it needed winning at all.
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    As someone who spend his last years in too many bars (both working and drinking) and discotheques (the latter almost exclusively working though as that isn't really my kind of thing), all usually completely filled by students some even run by students (such as me) I actually have to agree somewhat with Kadagar.

    When facing drunk, aggressive/heated people or just thugs, you have to swallow any pride/opinion you have, smile be friendly and all. I've been threatened with broken beer bottles and while colleagues wanted to call the cops, I asked them to get me and 'my friend' a beer instead. He bought me one back. All they want is some respect, when they get that they are okay. Their pride is no longer damaged and they don't need to do stupid stuff to restore. They couldn't ask for a better way out.

    That's what being the better man really is. Getting the trouble making guy out of trouble with his pride and honour intact. There's always a way for that.

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    I'm with Moros and Kadagar on this one.

    During my time at Uni, I was more awake at night than I was during the day and the few of these occasions I encountered, always got defused by somebody saying somthing extremely funny and somebody else buying a few beers.

    If you ever encounter such a situation again, keep in mind that staying calm, being funny and beer solve absolutely
    everything.

    And if they don't, then you are dealing with a teetotaler who has no sense of humour. The best thing you can do when you meet such a person is running. Fast. To avoid catching whatever disease he has.
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    I studied for one year in Intercollege - Cyprus, where the native Cypriots hate foreign students in their guts. One particular "gangsta" took it upon himself to threaten me over some issue which is not quite clear. I got several phone calls at 2 AM telling me to GTFO off Cyprus if I don't speak Greek. At one point he waited for me outside class with some of his friends. He was looking trough the round window and making threatening, "manly" gestures such as smoking a cigarette bud then throwing it at the window and grinning oh so menacingly.

    Since I'm not a guy who can take on 3-4 people by himself, I texted my flatmate who is a long time karate practiioner. He took one of our Ukrnaian friends, whom in turn called a Russian debt collector. The Russian was 2 meters tall, with arms like bloody tree-trunks and tattooed all over.

    Needless to say I didn't see that Cypriot "gangsta" ever again. However, an alternative solution would be to cave his head in as he goes out of his car, with either a brick or a piece of steel pipe. I was seriously contemplating this. It's funny that they (the Cypriots) also started stuff wit the arab students who were great guys, always friendly and also a close knit community, much like us Bulgarians, Serbs, Ukranians and Russians. I heard someone got stabbed after that bright idea however.

    Anyway my point is that bullies only understand one thing - violence and the imminent threat of losing most of their teeth. Don't go all Mike Tyson on him in the university. Show him you can and will track him down off campus and that you have people backing you up. He will either back off or natural selection will take it's course.
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