3 new factions! Epirus, Sparta, Athens (DLC)

**Lemur** · 05-13-2013, 17:37

Originally Posted by komnenos

I think it's better to wait and buy R2TW in Christmas day.

Originally Posted by Mongoose

I think it's really best to wait.

I hope all of you realize that it's idiots like me who pay full price for the pre-order that make the economics of game development work out.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

**Spoonska** · 05-13-2013, 18:07

Originally Posted by Lemur

I hope all of you realize that it's idiots like me who pay full price for the pre-order that make the economics of game development work out.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

Can I get in on some of that gratuitous action?

Originally Posted by Arjos

Well if no one is going to say it, I will!

Corinthian helmet for the Spartiates? Pah! XD

I can hunt down the post if you want, but Jack Lusted essentially already replied to someone griping about this saying : This is just 1 unit. There are are many different spartan units with many different helmet types. Not just Corinthian helmets.

I just typed helmeNts twice. wtf braint.

**Mongoose** · 05-13-2013, 22:58

Originally Posted by Lemur

I hope all of you realize that it's idiots like me who pay full price for the pre-order that make the economics of game development work out.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

Thanks!

It's the miracle of price discrimination. :P

If I could buy the game plus all of its future DLC and expansions for 60 bucks, I probably would.

Originally Posted by Lemur

I thought Shogun II was one of the most stable, feature-complete releases CA has yet managed. Compared to Shogun? Medieval? Not even to wade into the murky waters of Empire and Napoleon.

CA deserves some credit for putting out a polished 1.0 on S2, IMHO.

Oh, sorry - I totally lost confidence in 1.0 total war games after Rome, Medieval, Empire and Napoleon, to the point where I didn't start reading about Shogun until a year after it came out. Was it really totally functional and ready to go? If the S2 launch was strong, then they definitely deserve kudos for that.

I still remember leaving my computer idling because of the load-siege bug in RTW.

**Lemur** · 05-14-2013, 06:32

Originally Posted by Mongoose

Was [Shogun II] really totally functional and ready to go? If the S2 launch was strong, then they definitely deserve kudos for that.

Well, other members can correct me if I'm forgetting something big, but the S2 launch seemed to be remarkably smooth by CA standards. Obviously, there's no way a game as complex as that is going to launch with no quirks or bugs, but I don't remember anything game-stopping or outright bang-my-head-on-the-desk annoying. Best launch of the series, I do believe. Point of fact, I think it's safe to say that the S2 1.0 was more stable and feature-complete than many of the other games were by final patch.

Hence my unrealistically high hopes for R2.

**phred** · 05-14-2013, 16:06

Originally Posted by Lemur

Well, other members can correct me if I'm forgetting something big, but the S2 launch seemed to be remarkably smooth by CA standards. Obviously, there's no way a game as complex as that is going to launch with no quirks or bugs, but I don't remember anything game-stopping or outright bang-my-head-on-the-desk annoying. Best launch of the series, I do believe. Point of fact, I think it's safe to say that the S2 1.0 was more stable and feature-complete than many of the other games were by final patch.

That's how I remember it. I was playing S2 at release and I don't remember any issues.

**Barkhorn1x** · 05-14-2013, 17:31

Originally Posted by phred

That's how I remember it. I was playing S2 at release and I don't remember any issues.

Yes, I agree here as well. It's amazing more don't remember it that way as, given CAs prior track record, it was a memorable event.

;)

**The Outsider** · 05-14-2013, 21:34

Originally Posted by Barkhorn1x

Yes, I agree here as well. It's amazing more don't remember it that way as, given CAs prior track record, it was a memorable event.

;)

This.

**andrewt** · 05-14-2013, 22:12

Originally Posted by Barkhorn1x

Yes, I agree here as well. It's amazing more don't remember it that way as, given CAs prior track record, it was a memorable event.

;)

Probably because of cognitive dissonance. There was a bug with the AI turn lasting forever in rare circumstances but loading an earlier save fixed that.

**Lemur** · 05-14-2013, 22:17

Originally Posted by andrewt

There was a bug with the AI turn lasting forever in rare circumstances

Must have been pretty damn rare; I played the living heck out of S2 when it arrived, and I never found that bug.

Anyway, compared to other CA launches, S2 was a festival of sparkly pony magic.