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    Hmm.. I think i'll obtain all the dlcs and such, then give it a try again. I've seen some pretty gimicky guides, like taking all your starting vassal's lands for yourself, banishing/imprisioning/executing them and such, but it sounds like it's not how the game was meant to be played. Plus, starting in 1066 on some backwater island in northern Europe is one thing, but starting in the middle of the storm in 1187 is another.

    Interestingly enough, for a first try of CK2 (I played a bit of 1 and Deus Lo Vult, but never mastered it), I somehow managed to not get my head chopped off by muslims and NOT swearing fealty to Jerusalem until the TO emerges, which is several years after the start I think. If I somehow manage do get 120 piety by then, I think I'd be fine.

    Though last night I did swear fealty and I found that it's actually to my benefit to do so, as the entire army of the Hospitallier order basically helped me crush the Hashashin province. It then went on conquering in Rum for some reason, but whatever. I'm curious how the AI can raise the Hospitalliers ASAP, while if I were playing the KOJ i'd have to wait to amass the necessary piety.

    I also have an idea of somehow involving the HRE into the levantine conflict. If the Kaiser drops the hammer on Egypt I think myself with the KOJ can together somehow splatter the rest (with the aid of the Holy Orders of course).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    Hmm.. I think i'll obtain all the dlcs and such, then give it a try again. I've seen some pretty gimicky guides, like taking all your starting vassal's lands for yourself, banishing/imprisioning/executing them and such, but it sounds like it's not how the game was meant to be played. Plus, starting in 1066 on some backwater island in northern Europe is one thing, but starting in the middle of the storm in 1187 is another.

    Interestingly enough, for a first try of CK2 (I played a bit of 1 and Deus Lo Vult, but never mastered it), I somehow managed to not get my head chopped off by muslims and NOT swearing fealty to Jerusalem until the TO emerges, which is several years after the start I think. If I somehow manage do get 120 piety by then, I think I'd be fine.

    Though last night I did swear fealty and I found that it's actually to my benefit to do so, as the entire army of the Hospitallier order basically helped me crush the Hashashin province. It then went on conquering in Rum for some reason, but whatever. I'm curious how the AI can raise the Hospitalliers ASAP, while if I were playing the KOJ i'd have to wait to amass the necessary piety.

    I also have an idea of somehow involving the HRE into the levantine conflict. If the Kaiser drops the hammer on Egypt I think myself with the KOJ can together somehow splatter the rest (with the aid of the Holy Orders of course).
    Oh , of course you should. I hope also buy CK2+all DLCs through steam.
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    Has anyone managed to reform the Norse faith?
    #Hillary4prism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Has anyone managed to reform the Norse faith?
    Yeah, but there are two bugs with that. One is that the Norse holy orders don't reform and the other is that female seers cannot convert anything or anyone, I have no idea why...

    You also lose that yummy defensive attrition bonus and get hit by it when invading other unreformed pagans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Has anyone managed to reform the Norse faith?
    Yep, check my screenshot a page back.

    Quote Originally Posted by White_eyes:D View Post
    Yeah, but there are two bugs with that. One is that the Norse holy orders don't reform and the other is that female seers cannot convert anything or anyone, I have no idea why...

    You also lose that yummy defensive attrition bonus and get hit by it when invading other unreformed pagans.
    I can confirm the Jomsvikings not reforming. Actually I reformed before they existed, that might be the problem. As for female seers, I never actually tried/noticed. Good catch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotix View Post
    Yep, check my screenshot a page back.
    Ahh. You did too!

    Holy orders didn't reform for me either.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    I started an 867 Game as Holmgardr, now I'm in 973 and I've got the kingdom of Rus, just large enough to create the Russian Empire if I had the right culture--somehow my lineage went from Norse culture and Norse religion to Estonian Culture and Slavic Religion. On the up-side, i'm >< this close to reforming the Slavic Religion, just gathering moral authority as I already have the Holy Sites and the piety.
    Your culture/religion shift would be down to guardians or events. Guardians have a chance to change their wards culture/religion to their own. So be careful educating your children with a foreigner. Alternatively it can be used to your advantage, educate your next heir using a Russian and you'll be able to form that Rus Empire!
    #Hillary4prism

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    I thought I'd combine my favourite CK2 things, Norse raiding, the Baltic Sea and Project Balance and see what I'd manage to accomplish.

    Premise: An (completely) ahistorical Baltic Norseman tenuously rules Prussia, his vassals distrustful of this upstart heathen. Surrounded by religious enemies and ambitious would-be-kings, he must reach his goals.

    Goals:

    1. Revoke all of Prussia before becoming a King prevents doing so.
    2. Subjugate Lithuania and become its King.
    3. Marry into Norse Royalty.
    4. Subjugate Poland and become its King
    5. Create the Empire of Poland-Lithuania
    6. Keep it all together!


    Needless to say:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    I did it!




    Also.... 14 children is, uh, quite a lot, and only 20% died young. Concubines are a bit of a double-edged proposition... Mortality and fertility still needs a little more tweaking.


    This DLC really is excellent. Raiding is so much fun and so powerful. In the course of my game I sacked Venice and Rome and took the spoils and plunder of the Mediterranean for my own!

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    And I captured the odd King too!




    Next up is the impending realm division when Jedvard journeys off to Valhalla for further glories. Thankfully the Empire is elective, and all but 1 Duke weak and easy to manipulate.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    The Heir to Poland. Vs. The Heir to Lithuania.





    There is still more of Poland to conquer. But that can wait till after the inevitable succession crisis (you can tell which son I favour!)
    Last edited by naut; 06-02-2013 at 15:16.
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