Racism and dogs...

[Papewaio]

Who would?

It's not like an albino negro is less negroid, is it?

Racial divisions are best estimated in the actual divisions. No?

It's a nature/Nuture divide as well.

You can see big differences in a family simply with country vs city raised cousins of a similar age group.

Sure, similar genetics but different outcomes.

Also the differences between siblings can be quite marked. So it isn't simply genetics, culture, family or society.

Our genetics alone mean we have 23 pairs of chromosomes of which on average you will share half with your siblings. And that doesn't even take into account which of the genes get activated and in which sequence.

People are highly complex machines.

[Kadagar_AV]

It's a nature/Nuture divide as well.

You can see big differences in a family simply with country vs city raised cousins of a similar age group.

Sure, similar genetics but different outcomes.

Also the differences between siblings can be quite marked. So it isn't simply genetics, culture, family or society.

Our genetics alone mean we have 23 pairs of chromosomes of which on average you will share half with your siblings. And that doesn't even take into account which of the genes get activated and in which sequence.

People are highly complex machines.

Uh...

Rubbish.

Sorry... That came off as rude unintended. I meant to say that what you wrote was complete ****, intended.

Yes "people are complex machines". But with that said, two siblings will generally have a DNA structure WAY more attuned than any one of them separately would have with some random guy from some other continent.

Much like a white guy would make a rather safe bet if he bet his DNA would more resemble another white guy than a yellow guy.

Can we move on from the stuff you are supposed to have understood from having a brain, or are we going to sidetrack this into a discussion of your educational system?

[Papewaio]

Grew up on a farm. Seen both breeding programs for natural and artificial insemination.

Identical parents does not equal identical children.

Further even twins who have the same chromosomes don't all have the same ones switched on.

For instance whilst a twin may be gay it doesn't follow 100% that the other does.

So you can share a pool of genes but they are not as determinative as one thinks.

Just look at obesity. It's genes, which ones get switched on, social group, bacteria and individual lifestyle.

Genes are indicative not determinative. Big difference.

[Papewaio]

Mathematically speaking on average you only share half your genes with a sibling.

In the dog world to get these pure breeds you are fond of quoting it requires the genetic pool to be concentrated. In humans we call that inbreeding. Not really a good recommendation to survival.

Mongrels are less likely to get cancer, live longer and generally display hybrid vigor.

[HoreTore]

In the dog world to get these pure breeds you are fond of quoting it requires the genetic pool to be concentrated. In humans we call that inbreeding.

Indeed, and this is the reason why the comparison between humans and dogs fail. Dog(and cat, which I'm more familiar with) breeds are inbred families, humans are not. A breed you could compare to humans would be the "back alley" cat breed, and trying to give that breed certain characteristics will result in a massive fail.

[Fisherking]

I would tend to think it is more environmental. A black kid growing up in the north of Norway is likely to think and act a lot different than his grandparent from Kenya, lest say.

The same for a white kid growing up in the inner-city of Detroit. His ideas, speech etc. are going to be different than his cousin who grew up in rural Alabama. The wouldn’t fit the mold too well.

Now as an aside, Kadagar AV, what are you doing back in Sweden? I thought you had made a permanent move to Austria. How is it you are so different from the average Swede?

And do you hate your self and that is why you keep going back? Next summer you should try Greece or something where you won’t get arrested for nonconformity. There are lots of runaways from Sweden and Norway hiding out down there being politically incorrect.

[HoreTore]

No, Norwegian refugees are colonizing Spain(the elderly) and Thailand(the pedos), not Greece.

Anyway, you could expand your statement to include adopted children, Fisherking. Will an Asian/African/Whatever adopted as a toddler by European parents act according to the culture of its country of origin or the country it grew up in? I can't see any research showing it will act according to the culture of its country of origin, and that sways the facts heavily in favour of nurture over nature.